Well, what I wrote is AD design 101. You'll probably find it in every AD book, 
and also Microsoft's AD design documentation. And having implemented AD designs 
for a number of large enterprises, I think I have a reasonable idea of what 
works and what doesn't :-)

Obviously it depends on what your business does, and how it's administered. If 
you need to administer things (either delegate administration/permissions, or 
apply administrative settings) by region/geographical area, then organise your 
OU structure that way.

But I've seen waaaay to many businesses organise things by geographical area 
just so that admins can find things easier in dsa.msc. That is a sub-optimal AD 
design, and just makes it harder to use AD effectively. Organise your OU 
structure by how you administer things, rather than how to make it easier to 
group things in GUI tools.

Cheers
Ken

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2008 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set by area 
so that I can use GPOs to install software from different servers based on 
where they are located (not server based administration as Ken mentions). It 
has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if Ken had a reason for his 
blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be done. If a reason exists I 
would be interested to know what it is.
Tim


From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for 
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to 
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have 
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

-Brian


________________________________
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

I'm curious why you say that Ken.


From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be organising 
your servers into regional specific OUs.

Cheers
Ken

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming


Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and place 
everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me anyways. So 
if I need to see all systems in a particular region or location I navigate to 
that function or location specific OU and go from there. Keep it simple, 
seriously! If you're dumping everything into one OU then I can see how it'd be 
a problem.


On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver, Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info he's
looking for...

Joe Heaton

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> servers?

Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a number
tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
Windows still uses internally.

For smaller shops with the right attitude (like my current employer), I
tend to go with more interesting names, with a theme.
Small shops almost always have all their servers being multi-purpose.
Naming everything "SRV1", "SRV2", and so on tends to be confusing.
For example, at my current main gig, we've got TIGER, PUMA, LION, COUGAR,
and NTSERVER.  (Can you guess which one has the legacy app that just don't
die? ;-) )  At my last main gig, we used Simpsons characters.  This doesn't
scale up to large orgs, though, and if the place has a stuffy attitude it's
not appropriate, either.  For the latter, I usually just use "ORGSVR1" or
whatever.

RFC-1178 has some advice on this, although it's oriented more towards DNS,
where the tree structure makes naming conflicts less of an issue.

> Currently we use location and function in the name, but what about a
> server that does more than one thing?

Use a more generic name, like "SRV" or "UTIL" or whatever.  Indeed, if
it's at all likely a server will be tasked with multiple things, I always
try to go with the more generic name.  A server named one thing that's
really doing more is misleading.  Worse is when the original task then gets
moved off, and now you have a server named "DC1" that isn't a DC anymore, or
something like that.

-- Ben


























































































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