I agree to a point with Ken, "It is not what you know but who you know!" that 
gets you the job(s).  I have only gotten one position, many many years ago on 
the basis of what I knew.  All of them since then have been on who I knew as 
much or more as what I know.  Yes what you know is important but of more 
importance is who you know just to get to the stage of proving you know your 
stuff.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media

I'm sure we'd all prefer to be off doing the things we like to do. 

But we still need to find jobs somehow. And finding jobs usually depends on 
your network (it's possible to get some jobs 'cold' but that isn't the norm 
IME). That the "network" is extending into the digital realm, I think, is ASB's 
point. Obviously if you have a large offline network already, then you may need 
do nothing more. But for people starting out in their careers today, it's 
probably going to become more important.

ASB's comment: " Who knows about you is becoming as important as what you 
know." Isn't specific to social media - it's always been the case IME

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Career and Social Media

<snippage>

I ... would rather be spending real time with either friends or a book.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Networking has always been important to finding work. You used to do 
> it at work, user groups etc. Now you can also do it via LinkedIn or a blog 
> etc.
>
>
>
> I think you’re confusing Facebook (a specific social media 
> implementation) with digital networking/reputation (as a general 
> concept)
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
>
>
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013 1:51 PM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Career and Social Media
>
>
>
> +1000
>
> I do not have a facebook account, nor any other social media account 
> other than LinkedIn.
>
> Work and personal life are as separate as I can make them.
>
> Social media is a time stealer and a privacy invader.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am glad I am getting close to the end of my career.  I really 
> dislike using things like Facebook for anything more than keeping in 
> touch with family/friends.  LinkedIN is about the only "social media" 
> I use for business.  I like to keep the two very separate from each other.
>
> Jon
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media
> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:49:52 +0000
>
>
>
> I can attest to that.  My last two jobs have come because social media.
>
>
>
> Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro
>
>
>
> From: Andrew S. Baker
> Sent: ‎March‎ ‎21‎, ‎2013 ‎6‎:‎38‎ ‎PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Career and Social Media
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2013-03-21/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is the new reality, folks.  You don't have to embrace it, but to 
> fight it is
>
> going to be
>
> career limiting
>
>
>
> .
>
> Within 5 years, it will be a major factor in employment...
>
> Who knows about you is becoming as important as what you know.


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