Thanks for your response Damien.  I definitely had some replication
issues when I discovered this issue.  But I fixed that a couple of
weeks ago and replication seems to be occurring properly now.    NTFRS
isn't flopping any errors at this time and dcdiag is whining about
account mapping (related to a user account in my phantom DDC policy)
but no other problems.  Next stop is combing through the replication
in sites and services on each machine to see if I can spot anything.

Just for giggles, I think I will make a change to the real DDC policy
and see if it gets replicated.

-Bill

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Damien Solodow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds like you have some sysvol replication issues. DCDiag should be your 
> friend here.
> In general, those ntfrs_xxxx folders are from replication conflicts so you 
> can usually delete them safely.
>
> I'd check your replication topology for sysvol (maybe dead links or an old DC 
> still in there) as well as your File Replication Service event logs on the 
> domain controllers to see what replication errors are being thrown.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Songstad [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: GPOs back from the dead
>
> Hi folks.  I have an issue that I can't seem to pin down and am hoping 
> someone here can help out.  I recently inherited a W2K3 domain with about 20 
> DCs - some W2K3 some W2K8R2.  The Default Domain Controller's policy is 
> largely empty.  However, at some point in the past, the Default Domain 
> Controller's policy had dozens of settings.  I recently moved a number of DCs 
> into another container where the Default Domain Controllers policy was 
> applied and enforced above a policy to temporarily change some WSUS settings. 
>  However, some of the DCs started applying the old (years old...) Default 
> Domain Controllers policy.  RSOP.msc revealed the dozens of policies from the 
> old Default Domain Controllers policy being applied.  Then when I moved the 
> DC back to its original container and ran gpupdate /target:computer /force, 
> the policy was updated to the current policy and related problems went away.
>
> Checking the sysvol folder on all of the DCs for policies referencing the old 
> settings I discovered that 17 of 20 DCs have a secedit folder in sysvol 
> \Policies\{6AC1786C-016F-11D2-945F-00C04fB984F9}\MACHINE\Microsoft\Windows
> NT with the old policies configured.  There are also 3 to 5 folders named 
> secedit_ntfrs_xxxxxxxx  that do not have the settings or any settings for 
> that matter.  The other 3 DCs do not have the secedit folder at all, but they 
> do have the secedit_ntfrs_xxxxxxxx folders.
>
> So, I have two questions.  1) Why did these settings suddenly get applied?  I 
> mean the same Default Domain Controllers Policy was linked and enforced in 
> both containers.
>
> and
>
> 2) How do I exorcise these old settings?  Just delete the Secedit folders 
> with the old data?  Delete the gptTmpl.inf files with the old data?  
> Something else?  I'm a little fearful of blowing things out of the sysvol 
> folder even if they are wrong.  I guess I'm a little fuzzy on the replication 
> process.
>
> Thanks for any insight,
>
> Bill
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