On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> IOW: Security is for the MANAGEMENT of risk and MITIGATION of same. For real
>> world systems, and usage of them, there is no such thing as perfect security.
>
>   That's true, too, but the point Munroe is trying to make is that a
> lot of people lose track of the forest for the trees.  They get so
> caught up in protecting the computer that they forget why they're
> protecting it.

If that's the case, then he didn't make his point at all clear.

>   On my home PC, most of the the software I use is free and
> unremarkable.  I could rebuild the software configuration from scratch
> in a matter of hours.  Why do I care about protecting *that*?
>
>   I don't.  I want to protect my photos, files, bank account, Facebook
> account, etc., etc.  All of which are tied into my user account and
> who-knows-how-many third-party web sites.  They don't much care about
> my admin account.

True, and unremarkable.

>   But a lot of computer security people focus on protecting the system
> privileged account.  For example, I've gotten into strong arguments
> with *nix weenies about how protecting the root account is the most
> important thing on a system, and that's the fundamental flaw in
> Microsoft Windows, or some such thing.  They don't get that the data
> in my user account is a lot more valuable than the software install.
> They don't get that a worm can propagate from my user account just as
> easily.  And as I'm the only user of my home PC, I'm not even
> protecting other users from me.  Yah, I protect the root account, but
> only as a means to helping protect the stuff I care about.

True again - and again unremarkable. My point is that you have to use
the same methods to protect unprivileged accounts as you do
root/administrator.

Not that they're equivalent in power, but that each kind of account
can do and has access is different and equally valuable.
Root/Administrator is valuable because it can subvert the protections
on, or directly access, the data that end-user accounts have, and
end-user accounts because that's the actual money/IP resides.

That's the import of my remarks about screensavers, FDE, not caching
passwords for web sites in browsers, etc. - it's all about protecting
the data; that which resides on the machine, and that which resides on
teh intarwebs.

Kurt

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