That's the beauty of the Limoncelli book. It is system/product
agnostic. It's not an ITIL howto, it's instead an education for a
sysadmin, which will complement any efforts at standardization.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
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> IMHO, being a good sys admin has nothing to do with a particular system.
> Being hardware/software agnostic is probably best, but understanding policy,
> procedure and best practices are a best bet overall.  Getting an
> understanding and then more than an understanding of ITSFM or ITIL is in
> EVERY sys admin's best interest.
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> Rick
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> From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:11 AM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: If you're monitoring your servers thoroughly....
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> "If you don't test for it – it's going to fail on you, and you won't know
> it." Exactly my point, shouldn't this stuff be monitored already? It
> shouldn't matter whether your patching or not, the stuff should be monitored
> in-between patching periods anyway.
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> Kurt – The Practice of System and Network Administration…I've never heard of
> that (welcome to my OJT world). This changes the subject, but seems fitting…
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> My last "real" training  - after getting the little CNA cert in 1995 – was a
> couple of Windows NT courses at New Horizons, everything else has been
> self-taught – but I'm the kind that needs the formal stuff to fill in blanks
> I'm surely missing. My point is,  not being college trained on Systems
> Administration I'm not surprised I didn't know about this book. Sure I have
> 13 years of administration under my belt, but I'd like be more informed
> about how to be more systematic about the things I do. This book looks like
> a good start. I'm fortysomething and perhaps should finally become a real
> System Administrator instead of wingin' it. What other books would you guys
> recommend?
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> I think Server 2008 has enough changes that I should certainly attend some
> training on that, I get the feel my company will miss out on the advantages
> unless someone knows it real well and points it out..
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> Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
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>  "When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands"
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> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:53 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: If you're monitoring your servers thoroughly....
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> Yeah, you do.
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> Just because the DC reboots, is it serving requests through LDAP on all
> interfaces? Or did one of those patches break multi-homed LDAP? (True story
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> Just because the GC reboots, it is serving requests through LDAP and is the
> NSPI interface initialized? (Without it, Exchange and older Outlook clients
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> Just because the exchange server reboots, did the IMAP service start?
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> Is RPC/HTTP working? Is the store listening on port 6004? Can you open a
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> If a client can use it, you need to test it.
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> I read this somewhere today (and copied it into my "think about pad"):
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>  If...it isn't built into process
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>      it isn't auto-enforced   ....it may as well not exist
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>  Systems verify and enforce policy
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> I didn't write down the source (my bad). If you don't test for it – it's
> going to fail on you, and you won't know it. There is nothing worse than a
> client calling you to tell you that one of your systems are down and you
> didn't already know it.
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> Regards,
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> Michael B. Smith
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> MCSE/Exchange MVP
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> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
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> From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:26 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: If you're monitoring your servers thoroughly....
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> …do you need to really check anything after patching and rebooting? I would
> think if you're already monitoring all the services, shares, disk space,
> event logs, data stores, etc then patch and reboot wouldn't require much
> testing per se. For DC's you could even automate a DCDIAG on every restart
> and have the results shot out, right?
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> This is a rose colored glasses look, but wondered if anyone actually pulls
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> Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
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>  "When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands"
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