We get Chinese overtime here at the PAC... ________________________________
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Random Q Network Admin vs Systems Engineer I've noticed that Titles and Job Descriptions are being written not so much to outline your area of responsibility but to give HR the opportunity to dictate your status. For example, my title is Technical Support Analyst III (my responsibilities match those of most typical Systems Engineers). However, given my title in conjunction with my job description, I'm labelled as a "Professional" which means I'm an exempt employee. No overtime pay for me :| After hours work is considered part of my job responsibilities... - Sean On 2/29/08, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Agreed and same here. I will say that if you get the engineer title, money seems to be better... Andy -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Random Q Network Admin vs Systems Engineer IMHO, the differences have never been clear. My job titles have, since 1997, been mixed and matched between [system|network] and [administrator|engineer], with not a dime's worth of difference between the positions. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:27 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Are they pretty much the same thing? Does anyone see much difference in what > roles these two job titles entail, and if so what skills differentiate these > two? I see job postings that have them together in the title, but I also > found this on SearchNeworking.com: > > > > "The responsibilities of a system engineer and network administrator are not > as clear cut as they were as little as five years ago. Today, most IT > systems thrive on convergence of technologies. VoIP is a very popular > example of how two distinct technologies (voice and data) are no longer > divergent. Similarly, systems rely heavily on networking, and networking is > useless without systems so, in essence, the two are so interdependent that > the job responsibilities for system and network administrators greatly > overlap. The only major difference is that system administrators specialize > more in the nature of operating systems, applications, and the computers > that run the OS. Network admins specialize more in routers and switches and > understanding how traffic flows through an internetwork." > > > > http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/expert/KnowledgebaseAnswer/0,2896 25,sid7_gci1228606,00.html > > > > Does that sound accurate to you guys? > > > > Dave Lum - Systems Engineer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 > "When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
