Actually,
I agree with you there. I guess (not for any real good reason) I am cutting 
them slack (maybe more than they deserve?) in that I see it as a continued 
effort in the right direction. Sure, in some aspects they have so far to go to 
catch up to the *nix guys, but they sure do have them beat in other ways.

But your right, we shall wait and see!

jlc
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From: Mike Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Microsoft Hyper-V

Follow the link I posted and find the shot (last page) of them installing IIS 
from the command line. I’m a BSD guy. I know about compiling and building with 
options, ifconfig, vi, bash vs. sh, and long command line operations. But the 
example they give is just installing an app. It’s fine to have the option of 
doing everything on the command line, I just think since they included *some* 
graphical applications would it have killed them to include appwiz.cpl? 
Obviously the GUI is still there. At the moment it just seems a very clunky 
hybrid. From a resource standpoint it seems not worth the trade for lack of 
GUI. From a security standpoint I’m sure it’s better but by how much exactly 
we’ll just have to wait.

--
Mike Gill

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Microsoft Hyper-V

>Actually it’s a bit disappointing as it seems some tasks are incredibly 
>convoluted doing them from the command line.

That's surely an item of debate:) Those comfortable at the shell (especially 
those who automate in large scale) will not be worried.

Once I started using Redhat at work, I decided to force myself to learn it by 
using Fedora on my desktop at home. All I can say is that I can *never* be 
without that power in my life again!

Since then, I have replicated many tasks I otherwise would have done with 
Windows with Redhat and just love the concept of no gui. The lack of a striped 
version of Windows has been MS's scorn since day one. You can clearly see over 
time the goal of getting there. I remember the days when you *had* to setup a 
window boxen carefully, then bring into production/online :) I am very pro MS 
(don't confuse me for a tin foil hat Linux advocate) but this is a welcome 
product amongst those who require it.

jlc










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