I am at a University.

Jon

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Miller Bonnie L. <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Jon—Just saw this thread.  I see you found CIPA, but even w/out that,
> there might still be other laws that apply at your state level—you might
> make an inquiry (sorry, can't remember which state).
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> I understand that our K-12 ISP requires we have a proxy server, but that
> is solely for bandwidth usage reasons and I'm not aware if there is also a
> content filtering requirement.  There are also some laws that apply to ISPs
> specifically for children under age 13 that may or may not apply somehow to
> schools.  Other than that, school board policies should apply, which in your
> case, sounds like no filtering (or they don't exist?).
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> An interesting "solution" that some school districts in our state have
> done (from a few people I've spoken with) is to have 3 filtering servers.
> One for staff who have signed acceptable use policies, one for students
> whose parents have signed acceptable use policies, and one where only a site
> "allow" list is available (as teachers request additions), for students
> whose parents have not signed anything, but need access for a class
> function.  In this case though, even the first two servers have some level
> of filtering applied.
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> -Bonnie
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:42 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range
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> It does here.  No justification means I can't do it.  Legal says there is
> nothing to justify my actions.  Supervision says don't do it.  At least I am
> covered when and if one of them does something they said they would not do.
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> Jon
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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Jon B. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Just because you don't have to doesn't mean you can't.
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> Jon Lewis
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:19 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range
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> Well I just got a response from the legal department that we are not
> covered by CIPA which means I have no legs to stand on for this issue.
> Guess I just have to let the "little angels" have fun.
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> Jon
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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Nope this is all funded in-house with the exception of transportation to
> and from the campus.
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> Jon
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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Jon B. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>   >>> I vote shut it down until your lawyers talk to their lawyers.
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> Too true.  We just had it out with a group of e-rate auditors because we
> got by on a free trial on our filter for a bit.  Filter was in place but as
> it was a trial that wasn't good enough.  Those KPMG e-rate auditors are a
> right pain in the backside.
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> Jon Lewis
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> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:48 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
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> *Subject:* RE: Student access in the K-12 range
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> Also Title III money has the same requirement. Interesting question…are
> these students/staff there as part of a JVS or joint study program? If so
> they may be paying your University with E-Rate funds or Title III money. I
> wonder if that would then make CIPA apply to you…..
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> I vote shut it down until your lawyers talk to their lawyers.
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> If anyone complains ask them if they want 17 years in the slammer.
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> http://www.news.com/Police-blotter-Child-porn-blamed-on-computer-virus/2100-1030_3-6130218.html
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> *From:* Jon B. Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:38 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
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> *Subject:* RE: Student access in the K-12 range
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> Just got in so sorry I couldn't point you to that earlier.  Do you get
> funding from the e-rate program?  If so, you're required to have some
> filtering mechanism in place.  That's basically all CIPA applies to.
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> Jon Lewis
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:27 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range
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> Well I finally found one law that is kind of what I was looking for.  If
> anyone is interested it is the Children's Internet Protection Act the only
> problem I am finding is this is a University and these are K-12 students
> using University machines.  At least this is a start for me.  Any other laws
> others may know about?
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> Jon
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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Can't sack the guy he is 1. married to the bookkeeper, 2. this is the
> State you have to have years worth of proof to do that, and 3. he is very
> good at web sites and graphics stuff which is his primary duties.
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> Jon
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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Rankin, James R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>  Can't help you with the laws, but if I were you I'd be looking at
> mandatory profiles, GPOs, and/or sacking your junior
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* 15 April 2008 12:13
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
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> *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range
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