I am at a University. Jon
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Miller Bonnie L. < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon—Just saw this thread. I see you found CIPA, but even w/out that, > there might still be other laws that apply at your state level—you might > make an inquiry (sorry, can't remember which state). > > > > I understand that our K-12 ISP requires we have a proxy server, but that > is solely for bandwidth usage reasons and I'm not aware if there is also a > content filtering requirement. There are also some laws that apply to ISPs > specifically for children under age 13 that may or may not apply somehow to > schools. Other than that, school board policies should apply, which in your > case, sounds like no filtering (or they don't exist?). > > > > An interesting "solution" that some school districts in our state have > done (from a few people I've spoken with) is to have 3 filtering servers. > One for staff who have signed acceptable use policies, one for students > whose parents have signed acceptable use policies, and one where only a site > "allow" list is available (as teachers request additions), for students > whose parents have not signed anything, but need access for a class > function. In this case though, even the first two servers have some level > of filtering applied. > > > > -Bonnie > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:42 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range > > > > It does here. No justification means I can't do it. Legal says there is > nothing to justify my actions. Supervision says don't do it. At least I am > covered when and if one of them does something they said they would not do. > > > > Jon > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Jon B. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just because you don't have to doesn't mean you can't. > > > > Jon Lewis > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:19 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range > > > > Well I just got a response from the legal department that we are not > covered by CIPA which means I have no legs to stand on for this issue. > Guess I just have to let the "little angels" have fun. > > > > Jon > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nope this is all funded in-house with the exception of transportation to > and from the campus. > > > > > > Jon > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Jon B. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> I vote shut it down until your lawyers talk to their lawyers. > > > > Too true. We just had it out with a group of e-rate auditors because we > got by on a free trial on our filter for a bit. Filter was in place but as > it was a trial that wasn't good enough. Those KPMG e-rate auditors are a > right pain in the backside. > > > > Jon Lewis > > > > *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:48 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Student access in the K-12 range > > > > Also Title III money has the same requirement. Interesting question…are > these students/staff there as part of a JVS or joint study program? If so > they may be paying your University with E-Rate funds or Title III money. I > wonder if that would then make CIPA apply to you….. > > > > I vote shut it down until your lawyers talk to their lawyers. > > > > If anyone complains ask them if they want 17 years in the slammer. > > > > > http://www.news.com/Police-blotter-Child-porn-blamed-on-computer-virus/2100-1030_3-6130218.html > > > > > > > > *From:* Jon B. Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:38 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Student access in the K-12 range > > > > Just got in so sorry I couldn't point you to that earlier. Do you get > funding from the e-rate program? If so, you're required to have some > filtering mechanism in place. That's basically all CIPA applies to. > > > > Jon Lewis > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:27 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range > > > > Well I finally found one law that is kind of what I was looking for. If > anyone is interested it is the Children's Internet Protection Act the only > problem I am finding is this is a University and these are K-12 students > using University machines. At least this is a start for me. Any other laws > others may know about? > > > > Jon > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can't sack the guy he is 1. married to the bookkeeper, 2. this is the > State you have to have years worth of proof to do that, and 3. he is very > good at web sites and graphics stuff which is his primary duties. > > > > Jon > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Rankin, James R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Can't help you with the laws, but if I were you I'd be looking at > mandatory profiles, GPOs, and/or sacking your junior > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* 15 April 2008 12:13 > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Student access in the K-12 range > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~