"That's how dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far."
;-) On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What happens when someone wants a laptop, and to be able to work on files > etc away from the office? Do you make them VPN in all the time to be able to > edit something off an internal file server? > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > > > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 1:11 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed > > > > > > > I have to say I agree and disagree with both threads. > > > I agree with Murray because in my org the pc's are just dumb terminals and > all the work is done from the db on a server. > > > If I was in an org where everyone was responsible for their own data storage > and servers where mainly for print servers then I guess I see where a more > secure, faster pc would come in handy. > > > But right now I push policy from the DC and the pc is stuck with what I > allow it to do not the user. > > > If I don't want him storing files on it I don't allow it. I don't have to > worry about someone hacking the pc. I just keep the data lines tethered > with a tight string and I feel good when I go home at night. > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Murray Freeman > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:06 AM > > > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > > > No offense, but your post sounds like it was written bya MS Marketing Wiz. > Increased Security is a good thing. But define "increased security". Since > all our info is retained on servers, isn't that where I should be concerned > about security? Improved ease of management is another good thing, but I'm > not sure that Vista will improve management of my servers. Oh, and I'm not > clear just how Vista will improve the ease of workstation management. > Sleep/Hibernate isn't an issue here, but that's not to say it might not be > an issue some day, I just don't see it. If Vista is more reliable than XP, > that's a good thing, but we're not having a reliablity issue with our > workstations or servers for that fact. Finally, SPEED, now that's a hot > button for me. But what got me to respond the first time to this thread was > the fact that one individual had a faster laptop, but Vista wasn't running > any faster than XP on an older slower laptop. So, is there really an > increase in speed? > > > > > Murray > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:38 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > > > > If your organization doesn't need things like increased security, improved > ease of management, and better performance with offline files and folders, > then no—Vista probably wouldn't be of use to you. Ditto for improved > sleep/hibernate and increased speed through ReadyBoost and SuperFetch. > > > > For my organization, these new features bring benefits over XP. In fact, > most organizations benefit from improved speed, security, and reliability. > But if yours doesn't, that's okay. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:31 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > > > > Now let me understand this. I should spend the money to acquire a new FASTER > computer so that I can run Vista which runs at the very SAME speed that an > older slower computer did running XP, but Vista really has little if any to > offer in the way of benefits. Now I get it!!!!! I'm loving this thread, > because so far I don't hear any good reasons to upgrade to Vista. I've been > in IT for nearly 44 years. During that time I've seen a lot of changes, and > in most cases more productivity for smaller amounts of financial investment. > But I just have a real problem with spending MORE to get virtually nothing > for my investment......other than I can tell people that I have VISTA!!! I > want to thank everyone for reaffirming the decision I had already made for > my organization. > > Murray > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:29 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed > > > > I have 2.2 GHZ Centrino Duo laptop with 2GB of RAM and Vista works as fast > as my previous XP Machine which was a 1.8GHX Centrino Duo and 2GB RAM. > > So your Pentium D 3 Ghz should be fine and dandy with or without the 4gb > obviously 4gb would be better but then that goes for xp too. > > Graeme > I have 2.2 GHZ Centrino Duo laptop with 2GB of RAM and Vista works as fast > as my previous XP Machine which was a 1.8GHX Centrino Duo and 2GB RAM. > > So your Pentium D 3 Ghz should be fine and dandy with or without the 4gb > obviously 4gb would be better but then that goes for xp too. > > Graeme > > > > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:59 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "John Hornbuckle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/12/2008 > 03:53:29 PM: > > > > > > Well, it's moot that a crappy system being sold by a vendor is good > > enough to run XP. It's also good enough to run Windows for > > Workgroups and DOS—but that's not the point. > > > > > > > > Yes, Vista has higher hardware requirements. Just like XP has higher > > requirements than Win9x had, and just like Win9x had higher > > requirements than Win3x had. Every OS that comes out is likely to > > have higher requirements than the OS before it. > > > > But honestly, Vista's hardware requirements aren't crazy high. As I > > mentioned before, I'm running it at home on a Pentium D processor— > > which is a very modest CPU by today's standards. Vista works just > > fine with it. The biggest issue with the hardware vendors, as seen > > in the ZDNet piece, is the crapware installed at the factory. The > > author of the article got the Sony laptop working perfectly with > > Vista without changing the hardware at all. > > > Really ... I have a Pentium D, 3GHz, 2M RAM. You think if I bumped the RAM > to 4G that Vista would be OK with it? I mostly use this PC for photoediting > (Photoshop CS3), and video editing (which in my case is converting PAL to > NTSC, or making a DVD out of AVI files, using Nero 7). > > Feel free to reply offlist .... > > > > > > > > > > > John Hornbuckle > > MIS Department > > Taylor County School District > > 318 North Clark Street > > Perry, FL 32347 > > > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:35 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed > > > > > > Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/11/2008 03:58:17 AM: > > > > > If a vendor sells an underpowered machine, then perhaps the vendor > > > should take some blame. > > > > I believe the point is that the hardware is not underpowered for Xp, > > but is underpowered for Vista. Especially if the vendor isn't (or > > can't ... ) offer XP on that hardware. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carbon credits are a bit like beating someone up on this side of the world > and sponsoring one of those poor starving kids on the other side of the > world to make up for the fact that you're a complete shit at home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are property of Indiana > Members Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use > of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not > one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you > have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete > this message immediately from your computer. 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