Hi,

Swapping VM memory to host page file isn’t the same as disabling the page file 
in the Guest OS. One allows over-committing memory on the host (because some of 
the RAM used by the guests can be paged to the page file on the host), whereas 
the other prevents the guest from using a page file inside the guest OS.

Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V does not support over-committing memory. If you 
allocate 8GB of RAM in total to your guest machines, you must have 8GB of 
physical available RAM (plus about 50MB/VM for management overhead and VMBus) 
in the machine.

Cheers
Ken

From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 5:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why 
XP is doomed)

In my case, I don't have a SAN. Just a decent raid controller, and a bunch of 
smaller VMs doing single tasks.

Also, there are options in VMWare to allow/disallow swapping of memory of the 
guest OS. I don't know if Microsoft's Server 2008 VM has that setting.

--Matt Ross
________________________________
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:40:33 -0700
Subject: RE: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why 
XP is doomed)
So, you are talking about:


a)      Disabling the page file inside VMs (A), (B) and (C)

b)      Hoping that the OSes inside those machines never need more than 512MB 
of RAM

?

I suppose it’s possible. But do you want to risk it? I’m not sure you’d gain 
very much. Most people put the VMs on a SAN (for performance as well as HA 
reasons), so raw IOps shouldn’t be an issue.

Cheers
Ken

From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HIJACKED THREAD: Virtual Memory and Virtual Machines (WAS: RE: Why XP 
is doomed)

Oooh... that brings up some questions...

I've always wondered if anybody has looked at Virtual Machines, and the use of 
Page files... Let me explain.

Let's say we have a box with 4 virtual machines. Each virtual machine is given 
512 megs of Memory, and is running windows 2003. The host server has 4 gigs of 
ram, so the 2 gigs being used by the VMs is no problem, and plenty of room to 
spare.

Of the four MVs, you have:

A) A DHCP/DNS/WINS server
B) An Active Directory server
C) An IIS server serving simple static pages
D) An SQL Server with a moderately heavy database

Could someone take VMs A, B, and C and give them a ZERO page file increasing 
performance for all parties? This is assuming that the jobs that VMs A, B, and 
C are all able to run their important but trivial tasks directly from memory, 
while VM D has less to compete with for IO to the harddrives?

Has anybody done this kind of thing with success?

Just a thought. It's ripe for the squashing. Sm:)e.

--Matt Ross













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