I think it makes pretty good sense, and also explains why they currently
force all their customers to smart host through them.  I guess I'm the
first to put up a fight because I'm the first to have a failover
solution that negates the smart host option. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Reverse DNS Advice for outbound email

Post-post disclaimer: No promices on coherency.

I am in desperate need of coffee all of the sudden. So, if something
didnt make sense, question me on it.

And sorry for the few spell-chunker typos in there...


On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They dont want to customize the PTR for customers because it makes it 
> easier for them to audit their network having it reflective of where 
> you are on their network.
>
> Its also more work.  But most providers have automation in place to 
> all customers to do this themselves - or at least make it easier for 
> the provider to handle.
>
> The issue as I see it is that the PTR identifies your host 
> specifically, not their network.  The PTR should reflect you as an 
> individual domain entity.  If they need/want to audit via DNS names, 
> they should internally track their own CNAMEs that point to the real 
> customer PTR.  Then they can do whatever they want.
>
> In the end this is all going to bit them in the arse.  Many public 
> mail systems not only check or the existence of the PTR, but also 
> scrutinize what it says (in terms of appearing like its a residential 
> spambot, etc) - and its only going to become more restrict moving 
> forward and anti-spam practices require that more and more of these 
> DNS record components not only exist - but also MATCH - also ni 
> relation to what a mail server is announcing itself as with its HELO 
> greeting during the SMTP session.
>
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:50 PM, N Parr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Thanks for the help everyone, I've already sent them an email telling

>> them they need to change the policy or loose me as a customer.  I 
>> also verified with Verizon (only other option) that they support 
>> changing the RDNS on their static DSL account also.  So far I can't 
>> find anyone other that this one provider that doesn't do it and I
told them so.
>> Could you explain what you mean by "their upstream should be auditing

>> their CNAMES?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:13 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Reverse DNS Advice for outbound email
>>
>>
>> Outstanding point, and more ammo for your debate with them.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:09 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Reverse DNS Advice for outbound email
>>>
>>> They should be auditing CNAMEs.
>>
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