May I 'hijack' this thread slightly to include the most annoying programming
on the net?

When you fill in a contact information form and the programmer has provided
a drop down list of states, it actually takes more clicks than it would just
entering the 2 character state abbreviation. Also, since NC is never in the
top half of the list so you also have to scroll down. Seems to me that the
programmer / web site designer is so enamored with the "cool" drop down
feature that he never thought about the user. Further, when you have to put
in a zip code, why not do the extra little bit of coding to look up the
state?

There, my rant is over and I feel ever so much better! <g>



On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:27 AM, James Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You may be right that it has improved. Looking at
> http://lotusnotessucks.4t.com, a lot of the probl;ems have been crossed
> off the author's list
>
> Luckily I haven't been involved in a company with Notes since 2006, and I
> am positively overjoyed to be working with Exchange all the time!
>
> 2008/6/6 Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>   Ed Brill loves it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, it's greatly improved from where it used to be. However, I still
>> think Exchange/Outlook are far superior in most ways.
>>
>>
>>
>> After all, can 280 million seats be wrong? J
>>
>>
>>
>> **cough**
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> MCSE/Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 9:16 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>   *Subject:* Re: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ihatelotusnotes.com/?p=7
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/feb/09/guardianweeklytechnologysection
>>
>> Indeed, no-one likes Lotus Notes. It is the Symantec of mail - indeed, if
>> it even classifies as email, being a database program in the beginning.
>>
>> 2008/6/6 Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> Notes Sucks, IBM sucks. Period..
>>
>>
>> But I am with Dave Lum on this one. When the thinking gets that
>> retarded, its time to find greener pastures.
>>
>> Z
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots
>> Network Engineer
>> Lifespan Organization
>> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
>> Phone: 401-639-3505
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:01 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>>
>> Been there, done that - Textron outsourced IT to CSC and we went from
>> Exchange/Outlook to Domino/Notes. That should have been my 1st clue, but
>> I hung on for two more years before deciding that was the *least* of the
>> stupid crap in the pipeline....
>>
>> Dave "If the company sucks, leave!" Lum
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 12:00 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>>
>> We were bought out and the new owners have Notes. I have no say on the
>> matter.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:57 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>>
>> Did someone from IBM take your CEO golfing and buy him a hat? You have
>> my deepest sympathies!
>>
>>
>> ...Tim
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:54 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>> >
>> > Oh boy! We are "Migrating" to Notes next month from Exchange 2003. I
>> > prefer to call it a downgrade, but management doesn't see the humor in
>> > that statement.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:16 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Greg Mulholland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Yeah i 'wowed' at that too.. life would be worth living without
>> > Outlook.
>> >
>> >   As a stand-alone email client, Outlook has some issues, some of
>> > which can be quite maddening.
>> >
>> >   But as Mr. Schaefer points out, Outlook is far from the worst
>> > offender.  Notes has held a top spot in the Bad User Interface
>> > Hall-Of-Shame for at least a decade now, and it never seems to get any
>> > better.  Only different.
>> >
>> > -- Ben
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