That graph raises the question "Are people still doing scans for A/V?" I would 
have sworn that the last time he question was raised on the list the large 
majority were not doing them.
Also, why no slot for Forefront on the list? The last time I saw numbers from 
Microsoft regarding FF I believe that they were very similar to the numbers in 
the graph for Vipre.

From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

Not anymore !!!!!   ;-D

http://www.vipreenterprise.com/

Check the resource comparison graph in the 'Why VIPRE Enterprise' section.

Warm regards,

Stu

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From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
Yes, Symantec's attitude stinks. As does the usability of the admin console. 
And the size of it's footprint, which is positively Yeti-esque. But I think 
this is a debate that's been seen a few times before, and it usually ends in 
one word - NOD32.
2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

Tried add/remove and it just sits there "Gathering information"

So I disabled all services for Symantec and rebooted.

We can login now and have full functionality again.

Now that I can breath, WTF.

I have never had an antivirus shutdown a DC.  (But I used Trend, My boss wants 
Symantec)





From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:04 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9



You can remove it via Add / Remove Programs


However the out-of-the-box policies for SEP are quite a pain and need to be 
tested thoroughly before deploying them. I can't find where it blocks editing 
of the hosts file, if anyone knows the location with the admin console I would 
be grateful (not to hijack your thread or anything)

2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available

Users unable to logon,

I disabled SEP and I can logon now.

But can't remove it





From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9



Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so, you 
might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.



-Bonnie



From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9



I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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