Makes total sense.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare / Virtualization

It seems that once MS made the statement cautioning about USN rollback, a
lot of people just assumed virtualizing AD wasn't possible instead of
understanding the simple warning and the trivial admin concepts behind
making it work.

**Don't rollback a dc** Simple. If one breaks, work with it like it was
physical, not virtual.
OTOH, if you understand the concept, it works *very* well in a lab:)

I actually currently don't even look after any AD sites that aren't
virtualized...

jlc

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare / Virtualization

I'm not aware of any FSMO role issues.

Microsoft has a whitepaper on virtualising Active Directory, including
issues with USN Rollback when restoring from snapshots. See:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=64db845d-f7a3-4209-
8ed2-e261a117fc6b&displaylang=en

Cheers
Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2008 10:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: VMWare / Virtualization
>
> I've heard about the FSMO role issue as well, just don't understand it.
> Simply having those roles (to me) doesn't compute the necessity of a
> physical box.  Wish I understood the reasoning a bit better.
>
> I too love the DR portion of it.  It's one of the main reasons we're
pushing
> hard for this to come faster.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: VMWare / Virtualization
>
> Lots of varied opinions on this subject...
>
> I (personally) will virtualize almost anything (SQL, Exchange, File/Print,
> etc.).  The only things I shy away from virtualizing are the FMSO role DC,
> Oracle (because of their cpu pricing model), or other servers that are
very
> cpu intense.  Aside from that, I'm willing to virtualize most any box.  I
> really like the added DR it provides me (we backup data/files on each
> server via Backup Exec (VM or physical) but in addition, we also backup
the
> entire VM flat-file every night (basically an image backup of the server).
> Restoring the entire VM flat-file can be done in 20 minutes flat, whereas
> rebuilding a crashed server and restoring the data can take hours or more.
>
> Low overhead boxes are typically the best candidate to virtualize (IMO)
but
> if you have a very robust virtual host, you can get away with virtualizing
> database servers, etc. as well.
>
> JR
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Fogarty Richard MR - CONTR - Team EITC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:47:32 -0400
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: VMWare / Virtualization
>
>
> When virtualizing a datacenter is there a stand fast rule on what one
> can/cannot virtualize?  For example, we're not scheduled to upgrade to
> E2k7 for some time, so I'd like to virtualize our E2k3 boxes.  We've
> used the capacity planner and very little of our existing infrastructure
> is being taxed.  Our SQL boxes run with all of our DBs on a SAN with
> fiber channel (as do all of our Exchange stores) - so I'm assuming that
> most should be fine.
>
>
>
> I know I've heard some of you say that you'd never virtualize
> everything, so are DCs the only systems you'd leave on a physical box?
> (Mind you, this is outside the obvious systems where you'd get no ROI)
>
>
> Comments?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
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