To the average Joe, yes... The transmission doesn't cease because you turn off the broadcast. If it did, you'd have no wireless...
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Murray Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is interesting stuff. I was under the impression that if you turned > off "Radio Broadcast" on your router, that it was "invisable". > > > *Murray* > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:25 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: WiFi setup > > Glad you found that. I was going to tell the story my son told me, they > tagged a bank at 5 miles. But since I had no real proof I didn't want to go > out on a limb and debate it….I have no details of how the bank was set up on > their end. > > > > > > > > *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:23 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: WiFi setup > > > > indeed ... > > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/448 > > > > Granted, the following excerpt describes a best case scenario of BOTH ends > optimized for distance, but it gives you an idea of how much farther than > the expected 300-500 foot coverage can be achieved: > > "Apparently, antennas of comparable gain cost upwards of $150. Over a clear > line of sight, with short antenna cable runs, a 12db to 12db can-to-can shot > should be able to carry an 11Mbps link well over ten miles." > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:00 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: WiFi setup > > Hmmm. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:54 AM > > *Subject:* RE: WiFi setup > > > > really, it *depends* ... I've heard (but no first hand experience) of > laptops with yagi antennae getting a signal 2000 feet or more from the wifi > source ... (approaching a half mile) > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:19 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: WiFi setup > > What distance would a High Gain antenna need to get a very weak signal? > > The building is in the middle of a field with parking all the way around. > > Secuirty 24/7 to keep the loafers off the premise. > > Visitors in a localized area. > > Trees and some small (10 ft high) mounds or hills outside the parking lot. > > Still not the best set up but the further I can push the cracker jackers > away from the building the better I feel. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:59 AM > > *Subject:* RE: WiFi setup > > > > Arggggh ... > > > > Directional antennae *can* limit the signal where you don't want it, but > not *eliminate* it completely. Any wireless hacker/cracker with a high gain > antenna (yagi, pringles can, etc) may still be able to latch on to your > signal. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:21 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: WiFi setup > > The wireless isn't for Joe its for CEO and the like. > > Here's the bottom line. They want to have their Fantasy Football draft and > Nascar draft in the office. > > No big deal they've been doing it for years. > > Now they want to do it with out anyone knowing it. So they are going to > move around on the big day. > > That way everyone thinks they are working instead of, you know... > > Besides the obvious gaff to all the security I am putting in place I like > what everyone has written and I > > am taken it all in. > > We will most like use Cisco POE products to go with our VOIP with Cisco we > currently have in place. > > > > Has anyone ever used directional antenii or is that a pipe dream I keep > having? > > Whereas the WAPs are directional instead of broadcast so the signal doesn't > 'leak' out into the parking lot??? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Christopher J. Bosak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2008 11:19 AM > > *Subject:* RE: WiFi setup > > > > Agreed. > > > > But I'd personally keep the confidential data off the wireless all > together. If Joe Employee needs his laptop to go on the internet, then he > can hop on the wireless and stay off the main network. That way, his laptop > never sees customer data (and why should it need to for a bank)? > > > > Christopher J. Bosak > > Vector Company > > c. 847.603.4673 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."* > > *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* > > > > *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2008 10:07 hrs > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: WiFi setup > > > > I agree. > > MAC filtering is a pain to maintain and provides very little, if any, > security. > > # 1 on George Ou's six dumbest ways to secure wireless list. > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43 > > Now granted, you've not said what the purpose for this wireless is so maybe > you don't need much security. > > If it is for guests to web surf, put it on a separate vlan, give it > internet access and be done with it. > > If it is for users and confidential credit union data, secure it as much as > possible. > > Good luck. > > > > > > *From:* James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2008 10:54 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: WiFi setup > > > > I was messing around with cracking APs and its pretty easy to clone the > MACs of devices connected to the AP to gain access when they are using MAC > filtering. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* David W. McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM > > *Subject:* Re: WiFi setup > > > > I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the WAN. We > are greating VLAN 127. It is the default vlan and will get to the internet > only. If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp address and > pumped to the internet only. > > It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Steve Ens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM > > *Subject:* Re: WiFi setup > > > > And use MAC address filtering... > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use > VPN from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other > security measures) > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* David W. 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