+1 lol
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ford = Fix or replace daily > Ford = Found on road dead > Ford != First on race day > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Andy Shook > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you buy a Chevy, you'd better get used to being at the shop. Ford rules! >> J >> >> >> >> Shook >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:41 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Your fav AV? >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> So if you buy a Chevy and a part goes bad do you refuse to take it to a >> dealer to have it serviced putting all your trust in only local small shops >> with hit-and-miss quality and reliability? That's the same argument that you >> just made regarding anti-malware, since it is obviously in the >> manufacturer's best interest to make a shoddy product so you have to get it >> serviced more often. The same argument can be made for any other product >> ever created, and yet quality as a whole in our world continues to improve >> as opposed to degrading. >> >> My personal approach is to buy the best product available for the solution I >> am in need of. I used to be a huge fan of Eset and NOD32 (I believe I >> actually got a number of people on the list to start using it), but I >> believe that their product quality took a hit when they went from v2.x to >> v3.x (I had been using it since v1.35 or so). I still think that Eset makes >> a good product also, but in my opinion it is no longer as good as ForeFront >> IMHO. And if you have ever dealt with Microsoft before then you know that >> the left hand definitely has no idea what the right hand is doing, you're >> lucky if people in the same product group are all on the same page. >> >> TVK >> >> >> >> From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:46 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Your fav AV? >> >> >> >> It's weird for me to think about paying MS for software to cover the >> insecurities in their own software. It doesn't surprise me a bit that Client >> Security could catch more problems than maybe everyone, as they would know >> best how to attack the issue for obvious reasons. This also makes a case for >> why they would be the best choice. But to need the software there must be >> problems to justify the solution, so for Forefront Client Security to be >> successful, it's in Client Security's best interest that the client isn't >> secure. It's not a big deal when one guy fixes another guys problem, but >> when you're paying one guy to fix his own problems, I guess you better trust >> that one guy. >> >> >> >> And stay away from BitDefender. Their new v3 enterprise solution is just not >> thought through. I don't know what they were thinking and all the >> acknowledged bugs I'm finding are show stoppers and killing me. >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Gill >> >> >> >> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:28 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Your fav AV? >> >> >> >> I just went through removing NOD32 and installing Microsoft's ForeFront >> Client Security product and I am thrilled. FF does deployment via AD >> integrated policies allowing for all machines to be covered with no manual >> installation required. It has anti-virus and anti-spyware capabilities (it >> found, and removed, a fairly large amount of spyware that NOD had not picked >> up), but it also does "Security State" checks where it looks at the overall >> security "stance" of your computers. i.e. – It will inform you of machines >> with blank admin passwords, passwords without expirations set, admin groups >> with "too many" members, Windows security updates missing, and a lot of >> other things. These security checks give you a view into your overall >> security situation that I have not seen provided by other products yet. >> >> Great product IMO, >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ > -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
