And those are connections from the DC to the firewall (and not the
reverse)? Something is misconfigured or you misunderstand how mail is
supposed to flow. Is all the mail flowing outbound that is supposed to
be?

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It's the Symantec Mail Security for SMTP.  Now what?

 

________________________________

From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It sounds like either something is misconfigured, your DC is infected
or you don't correctly understand how mail is supposed to flow in your
network.  Get on your DC and run netstat -no and looks for connection to
port 25 on your  firewall. Then look up the PID in task manager to see
what process on the DC is sending the mail.

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Everything is looking good this morning, as far as our email is
concerned and so far still off the blacklists.  In "host watch" of the
Watchguard System Manager, I am getting numerous (hundreds/minute)
outbound Filtered-SMTP "denies" from my DC (which is my mail gateway).
I thought mail was just going thru there one-way (incoming).

Mail in ->WG Firewall -> DC (Symantec Mail Security for SMTP) ->
Exchange Server -> WG Firewall -> Mail out.

Could there just be a misconfiguration on my DC?

 

Paul

 

________________________________

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

They are proxy's.  I have two defined.  One called SMTP and it has the
incoming set From: any, To: WG ip -> DC (mail gateway).  The outgoing
tab is disabled.

The other proxy is called Filtered-SMTP.  It's Incoming is Disabled and
the Outgoing is set From: Any, To: Any.  I change this From: Exchange
ip, To: Any.

I've never been able to figure logging on the WG.  I can never find the
logs and for email, I can't find where to set the address??  The WG
interface seems so simple, but it really makes me feel like an idiot at
times.

 

Hope this is good enough damage control for tonight.  I'll be back in
the am to check things and do more investigating.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

Paul

 

________________________________

From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the "Outgoing" tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to "all"  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.    

 

Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  

 

Dennis  

 

________________________________

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

"Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server" They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

"Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server)."  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 

________________________________

From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said "no".  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
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