If you can spare a box, put *nix on it, and use it as a gateway to
your Exchange server. You can put ASSP or Maia Mailguard on it, and
that will protect your Exchange from all sorts of things. Maia is a
user-friendly set of programs that incorporate SpamAssassin, and
provide the user with a set of web pages to manage their spam/ham.

If the SQL database containing addresses for a whitelist is important,
and you wish to use a *nix email gateway, a scheduled job that dumps
those email addresses to a text file can SCP'ed to the *nix box for
incorporation in the config files. Or, I'm sure, there are ways to set
up a pull of data from SQL to the *nix box via ODBC, or something like
that.

Kurt

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After searching around, I figured SpamAssassin may be my best solution.
>
> I found other sites that discuss SpamAssassin with SQL
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UsingSQL
>
> I will take some time to figure this out, but if the price is right (free)
> it will probably make the big boss man happy! :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:45 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: challenge/response SQL based white list
>
> Jacob,
>
> Its been a while since I used Spam Assassin in my former life, but its crazy
> feature rich if you have time.
>
> http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_SQLBase
> dAddrList.html
>
> I wonder if you could use that to create an auto-whitelist for all users and
> then if the email doesn't pass that you can flag and quarantine, or bump up
> the spam rating for client identification (or do a challenge response which
> I despise).
>
> It probably will take a decent amount of thought, but having Spam Assassin
> on your edge does give you a lot of ammo in your arsenal, its just a matter
> of finding the goods.
>
>
> -Troy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: challenge/response SQL based white list
>
> C/R is not necessary... it could even flag an email update the subject with
> something like "Not a Customer" or "Possible Spam".  Or, even forward it to
> another email address.
>
> For myself, I use spambytes for Outlook and it works about 95% of the time.
>
> But for the powers above me.. does not use Outlook (and won't move to
> Outlook or any other email client) and wants something down at the server
> end without the need for the user (himself) to mess with.
>
> The mail server we use has spamassassin built in. If I could figure out how
> to configuration the local.cf to read the SQL table, I could possibly work.
> I have been playing with this for the last hour.
>
> The problem we have is that most built in spam filters won't work for us.
> If you happen to look at the domain of my email address (NSFW), quite a few
> emails will be rejected.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: challenge/response SQL based white list
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We are looking at different solution for spam protection.
>
> OK
>
>> What we are looking for a solution that can challenge/response an incoming
>> email based on a white list that is SQL database based.
>
> Don't do it. For the love of all things sacred - spare your users and
> their correspondents the pain and aggravation. C/R systems should all
> be called Hoover - they all suck badly.
>
>> Anybody have any suggestions they have uses/tried for white list
>> centralization?
>
> Yes - don't do it. Get something that the users can manage themselves,
> like Maia Mailguard, or ASSP, or something like that. You can have
> whitelists in those, and blacklists (which are much less useful than
> you might think), but either of those are infinitely superior to a C/R
> system, and are much better for all concerned. Also, don't use
> catchall addresses, and make sure that your system refuses mail for
> invalid recipients. Lastly, if you can, publish SPF records in DNS.
>
> Kurt
>
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