Well now that Candee, Tim, and Rod have piped up I now have a MUCH better
idea of how this server functions and now have one desktop, one of 2
laptops, with the second due in sometime after 8 am today actually reporting
in and giving me information.  I know why the remainder of my systems are
not reporting but I still don't have a clue as to why the XP systems refuse
to accept install of the agents when the Vista machines do.  I have one test
running on the "missing" laptop that will give me more information on
configuration needs when it comes in.

Rod thanks for setting up the SCE forum I will be post a couple of questions
on it shortly.

Thank you all again for the help and understanding,

Jon

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Candee Vaglica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Awesome.
> Good luck!
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well a restart of the server and I have one machine and only one machine
> > reporting most if what I need to get this purchased.  I will look
> tomorrow
> > and see if everything I need is there.  Thank you all for your
> assistance.
> >
> > FYI
> >
> > I ended up moving the system from the OU it was in back to the Computers
> OU
> > removing most if not all of the GPO's for the office.  Restarted the
> machine
> > and then restarted the SCE server.  Now if it will collect the data from
> the
> > Dell OpenManage MP then I have enough ammo to take to get this thing
> > purchased.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I know I would have bought one before doing this demo if there had been
> >> one.  With a small window to work on this and do my regular tasks it
> would
> >> have been a big help.  If this shows it's value and I can get the
> purchase
> >> pushed through I will still purchase the book.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Candee Vaglica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Awesome!
> >>> Let us know when it's finished, I would *love* a copy!
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Those port exceptions should be a part of your SCE GPOs, but you have
> >>> > to make sure that A) Your clients have permissions to access those
> GPOs, B)
> >>> > There aren't other GPOs overriding the settings of the 2 SCE GPOs.
> >>> > Option B is a very common cause of issues with SCE, option A not so
> >>> > much, but still good to be aware of.
> >>> >
> >>> > PS - A SCE book is in the works.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:10 PM
> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> > Subject: Re: SCE list anywhere
> >>> >
> >>> > Glad I could help!
> >>> > Have you run gpupdate on the clients?
> >>> > I have the Windows Firewall on all the clients with the port
> >>> > exceptions pushed out via GPO.
> >>> > It was driving me crazy, but it's smooth as silk now.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>> >> Yeah I killed the GPO's that regulate that this morning.  The
> servers
> >>> >> seemed
> >>> >> to respond to it but not the clients.  I really did not want to have
> >>> >> this
> >>> >> SCE server handing out updates to clients as they are patched
> >>> >> correctly
> >>> >> now.  I also just turned on File Sharing on one client and rebooted
> 2x
> >>> >> and I
> >>> >> can still only get health monitoring data.  I am still also getting
> >>> >> the Not
> >>> >> Yet Contacted under Computers.  Things are better but it is a bit
> >>> >> frustrating setting up the demo to prove it will do the job.  I
> wished
> >>> >> there
> >>> >> was just one place that would tell you, in the correct order what to
> >>> >> do to
> >>> >> get it running.  I have seen something like 5 differnet places bits
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> pieces of information.  I got a lot further with the jewal Candee
> gave
> >>> >> me.
> >>> >> Most of the Warnings disappeared when I turned on File Sharing.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jon
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Do you have the clients pointed to your SCE server for updates? We
> >>> >>> usually
> >>> >>> hear about this when someone installs SCE into an environment where
> >>> >>> there
> >>> >>> are GPOs pointing the clients to a different WSUS box. You have to
> >>> >>> remove
> >>> >>> those GPOs before you will get true monitoring out of SCE.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> TVK
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:14 PM
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >>> >>> Subject: Re: SCE list anywhere
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> All firewalls are disabled by GPO for domain members.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Jon
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Candee Vaglica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Is there a firewall on the server?
> >>> >>> I can dig up the port list for you if you need it.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> > No firewalls, I killed them before I started the testing.  The
> >>> >>> > Vista and
> >>> >>> > 2003 server clients seemed to install as I can get health
> >>> >>> > infomation but
> >>> >>> > all
> >>> >>> > of them say Not Yet Contacted.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> > Jon
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Candee Vaglica <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >> I use SCE, maybe I can help.
> >>> >>> >> Have you installed the clients?
> >>> >>> >> Are you using a firewall between the server and clients?
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >>> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>> >> > Anyone know of a good System Center Essentials list anywhere?
>  I
> >>> >>> >> > am
> >>> >>> >> > demoing
> >>> >>> >> > the product and can't get the server to talk to the clients
> and
> >>> >>> >> > without
> >>> >>> >> > some
> >>> >>> >> > idea as to what I need to do to get them to talk.
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > Thanks,
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > Jon
> >>> >>> >>
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