> rootkit-enabled threats will hide from several Windows API functions

Fwiw, that's why we have a boot-time scanner that a) only scans if a
threat is detected (not everytime you boot system) and b) runs prior to
the Windows APIs. 

Alex 

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter van Houten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Evaluating AV

Boot scans are *mostly* a waste of time as modern malware in the form of
rootkit-enabled threats will hide from several Windows API functions,
rendering signature-searching scans useless.  So, unless your A/V has
its own fast disk reading routines, you have a problem.

It also gets worse:

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145703/hackers_find_a_new_
place_to_hide_rootkits.html

In case of wrapping:

http://tinyurl.com/4vfsce

I still recommend NOD32 products for pre-infection detection and
protection.

On the 07/08/2008 17:45, Joe Heaton wrote the following:
> Unlike Symantec v.10.  Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, 
> my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that

> darn scan is completed.
> 
> Joe Heaton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Evaluating AV
> 
>>From my observations as a NOD32 user:
> 
> Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources 
> if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications.
> 
> The system does not get "pegged" or become unresponsive.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU 
>> during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site!
>> --------------------------------------
>> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management
>> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
>> 217-337-9761
>> http://www.aspca.org
>>
>>
>> "Matt Plahtinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/06/2008 
>> 03:56:19
> PM:
>>> What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days?  6 
>>> months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much 
>>> about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down?  Our AV is 
>>> coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few 
>>> different vendors.  VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on
> my
>> list.
>>> Matt
>>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>> I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other 
>>> than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at 
>>> options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- 
>>> o-back comparisons?
>>>
>>> Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
>>> "..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by 
>>> riding the back of the tiger ended up inside"  - JFK

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