Unfortunately, they probably make more money from this than a straight job, or at least close enough that the thrill of being bad is enough to make up for it.
Have I told you about my fantasy regarding folks like these? It involves a tree, some rope, a few razor blades, and a live video feed to CNN for, say, about 24 hours. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Durf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish most software vendors were as diligent as the Antivirus 2008 authors > are. > > Looked at objectively - the software is everywhere, they come out with > regular updates (it goes as far back as "XP Antivirus 2004"), it works as > the authors intended, small footprint, great coding...Somebody give these > guys a straight job! > > -- Durf > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Stu Sjouwerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> We have it in there, but this thing mutates every few hours so >> you cannot really catch it with a static definition. We're in >> the process to get a heuristic def for this one! >> >> Stu >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:55 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware >> solution? >> >> Silly after question Stu, does Vipre's current definition set catch the >> Antivirus 2008 malwares? >> >> -troy >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:30 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware >> solution? >> >> CNET is pretty good and resonably independent / objective. >> >> This is their current list of antispyware products (many include AV) >> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3688_7-6812013-1.html?tag=feat.1 >> >> CounterSpy is their number one choice. Defender is second, 'cuz it's >> free. However, Defender does not do very well in shoot-outs. >> >> But for an enterprise app, the most important thing is RESOURCES, (apart >> from catch rates obviously) Check which consumer products are taking how >> much. We are now working on the enterprise side of these products: >> http://www.vipreenterprise.com/Why-VIPRE-Enterprise/VIPRE-Stats.htm >> >> I would very much like you to try VIPRE enterprise and let the list know >> how this went: >> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ >> >> Here is someone who did! >> >> "Everything seems to be working great. Installation was a breeze and as >> your marketing claims, I can't even notice it's running. >> >> >> "We originally had Norton AV (years ago) and switched because of the >> incredible lag it created when installed. Then we switched to Computer >> Associates (CA) eTrust. Even that was too much for my manufacturing >> floor machines, and as those machines don't have access to the internet, >> I actually removed all AV from them. Another thing I disliked about >> eTrust - the interface is done in Java and hardly ever worked right. >> >> >> "Now that some of my manufacturing floor users have started needing >> internet email access, I've been itching to put AV back on, and VIPRE >> seems to be working great. I haven't gotten a single complaint yet that >> any of those systems are acting slow. I use to occasionally put our >> previous AV software on a few machines just to make sure no virus was >> running ramptant out there, and I'd immediately get feedback that >> certain machines were acting really slow. >> >> >> "Anyways, great job on the new system! Easy to install, easy to deploy, >> great interface, and almost no system performance hit. Plus a very >> reasonable price too! Thanks!" -- Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:32 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti spyware >> solution? >> >> >> AVG 8 is a pig if you turn on all the features though, especially the >> Link Inspector. >> >> Whatever you use, remember to leave UAC turned on and the users running >> as non-admin. :) >> >> -- Durf >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Carl Houseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >> I would suggest that since AVG's Free version now includes their >> anti-spyware stuff, a home user is in pretty good shape with >> that. For >> business users who are buying AV anyway, buy one that has the AS >> stuff >> included - e.g. AVG, Vipre, etc. >> >> In the FWIW dept, I have seen Defender sound off about things >> detected, so >> it's not 100% placebo. Maybe only 99%. ;) >> >> Carl >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:00 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Windows Defender or some other antivirus/anti >> spyware solution? >> >> >> I have to disagree. The price of free is not worth the suckfest >> that >> you operate under the false-sense of security with. >> >> I've repaired enough compromised systems to validate the "free" >> price >> tag of anything. NOD32 and Spybot Search and Destroy (with >> TeaTimer >> running) FTW. >> >> If you are only going to run free stuff, dont use IE. Use >> Firefox >> with AdblockPlus and NoScript addons installed. >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Troy Meyer >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > OK I realize we all hate Microsoft and that their products are >> the worst >> thing since losing the Gymnastics gold medal, but for the price >> of *FREE* >> Defender does a good job at finding and removing some malware. >> >> >> -- >> ME2 >> >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! >> ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -------------- >> Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. >> Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> >> .. >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > -- > -------------- > Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. > Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks! > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
