Dave we do standard backups and flat SQL back ups and DAILY Ranger back ups and DAILY replication. It is called paranoia...
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Eldridge, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's what I do here with Ranger. I use agents to do daily backups and > once a month or so I do complete vcb image backups that get stored off site. > > > > *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:30 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Backup Exec 12 & VMs > > > > I understand and good advice. I'm just thinking about using this on basic > application servers without active databases, and even then, only as an > secondary alternative to using the agent on each VM. > > > > > > > > Roger Wright > > Network Administrator > > Evatone, Inc. > > 727.572.7076 x388 > > _____ > > > > *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:51 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Backup Exec 12 & VMs > > > > That's a pretty 'harsh' way to copy a server. If there are databases or > anything running on the guest, I would expect some corruption on a restore. > It's the equivalent of unplugging a live server, and powering it back on > again. > > > > I wouldn't do backup the virtual machines that way unless they are > suspended. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:35 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Backup Exec 12 & VMs > > Yep, version 12 agents include the ability to capture open files. So then > I should be good to go, right? > > > > > > > > Roger Wright > > Network Administrator > > Evatone, Inc. > > 727.572.7076 x388 > > _____ > > > > *From:* mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:02 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Backup Exec 12 & VMs > > > > Do you have the open file option for your BE? If so, then I see no reason > why that would not work. > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Roger Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I just did a test. Last night I backed up the Virtual Machines folder on > the host box as part of my normal backup routine. The single VM was running > at the time. > > > > This morning I deleted that entire folder and restored it from the backup. > I was able to restart the VM without a problem. > > > > So it appears that recovery of VMs will be relatively easy as long as I > don't require recovery of individual files within the VM. > > > > Am I missing something here? > > > > > > Roger Wright > > Network Administrator > > Evatone, Inc. > > 727.572.7076 x388 > > _____ > > > > *From:* mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:03 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Backup Exec 12 & VMs > > > > To back up the VMDK files, you will need a different tool. I think BE has > an option now for that, but we use RangerPro, which, as you said, basically > encapsulates the VM and can spot restore the entire VM to any host. It is > made by Vizioncore. They also make a vReplicator product to do live > replication of VMs. > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Roger Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the agent on the host will not backup the .vm* files? It would seem > that backing up these would allow for easier DR. > > > > > > > > Roger Wright > > Network Administrator > > Evatone, Inc. > > 727.572.7076 x388 > > _____ > > > > *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:02 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Backup Exec 12 & VMs > > > > if only 1 Guest, and if you have spare BE agent license, I would just throw > the agent on the guest and back it up directly. Don't really ever need to > backup the host. (Assuming all the host does is VMware Server). > > > > BE agents on the host can't backup guests out of the box. But they can, if > you get creative and start sceduling/scripting snapshots/suspends. Worth > investigating once you start getting more Guests running on one hosts. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:46 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Backup Exec 12 & VMs > > Okay, I've just deployed my first VM using VMware Server – a non-essential > server so I could get a feel for the process – and it's running well. > > Now… what do I need to do to back up this and any future machines with > Backup Exec? > > Does the host BE agent cover the guests or do I need to place an agent on > each? > > Or is that only necessary if I wish to restore files/folders within the VM? > > > > > > Roger Wright > > Network Administrator > > Evatone, Inc. > > 727.572.7076 x388 > > _____ > > > > > > "All new": Parts not interchangeable with previous model. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not > represent official Parkview Medical Center policy. > > This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may > be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in > accordance with state and federal laws. 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