Are these users on Mac's?  Are they using IE or some other browser?  I ask
as it appears I will be doing MOSS on IIS 7 shortly.  I also have one Mac
user that refuses to use anything Microsoft except Office for the Mac.  I
also know you do a lot of work with Mac's, or I seem to remember seeing you
post about using them.

Jon

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Oliver Marshall <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ahhh, it was having Windows Authentication enabled for the Sharepoint
> IIS site. Disabling that made the default domain work, but now requires
> that the internal users have to log on explicitly.
>
> Hmmmm'a'zor.
>
> Olly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: 27 August 2008 09:25
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Sharepoint/IIS default domain in authentication
>
> So they question is, why isn't IIS inserting the domain name before the
> username? Hmmmmmmmmmm.
>
> /scratches beard.
>
> Olly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 August 2008 09:11
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Sharepoint/IIS default domain in authentication
>
> It makes no difference if this is 2000/2003/2008 - the actual authN
> technologies aren't any different.
>
> If you are using Basic authentication, then setting the Domain and Realm
> fields should be enough. The user should be able to just enter
> "username" and IIS can insert the relevant Domain before the username.
> The actual authentication data that is sent to IIS is the actual
> password (Base64 encoded), and it has no dependency on the domain name,
> so when IIS inserts the domain name into the username field, there is no
> change that needs ot be made to the authN data supplied by the client.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 6:02 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Sharepoint/IIS default domain in authentication
> >
> > Thanks Ken.
> >
> > I keep forgetting about 2008 :) So I should say this is IIS6 on 2003.
> >
> > I've enabled basic authentication (SSL is in place) and I've seen that
> > either using \ or <mydomain> in the domain should make the user be
> able
> > to enter <user> as the username and have the default domain name
> > inserted.
> >
> > Olly
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 27 August 2008 08:55
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Sharepoint/IIS default domain in authentication
> >
> > You need to understand how the underlying authentication technologies
> > work.
> >
> > Domain is for Basic authN
> > Realm is for Digest AuthN
> > (IE will use the Realm HTTP header sent back by IIS to populate the
> > "authenticating to..." part of the dialogue box, so it's useful to
> > populate both fields).
> >
> > Neither field will help you with NTLM or Kerberos authentication
> > however. When using NTLM auth, the server needs to send the hash to a
> DC
> > for authN, and the server can't just "alter" this value to insert a
> > domain if the user didn't supply one.
> >
> > Kerberos Auth is completely different again - the server gets the
> > service ticket from the client, which in turn procured it from a DC.
> The
> > server can't alter this in any way.
> >
> > I'll email you a chapter from my IIS 7.0 book offlist that covers how
> > this all works under the covers.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 5:50 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Sharepoint/IIS default domain in authentication
> > >
> > > Hi chaps again.
> > >
> > > Can anyone think why I would be hitting so many problems when trying
> > to
> > > get a sharepoint site to use the default domain when users
> > authenticate?
> > >
> > > At the moment they have to enter <domain>\<user>, which while not a
> > > chore, appears to be more than most users can bare. Normally I'd
> just
> > > enter the domain in the default domain and realm boxes in the
> > > Authentication page of the sites properties in IIS. However, doing
> > that
> > > makes no difference in this case. If the users enter just <user> as
> > > their username it comes back with <machinename>\<user> and they have
> > to
> > > enter the domain name instead.
> > >
> > > Is sharepoint doing something other than just looking at IIS's
> > > authentication tab ?
> >
> >
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