Agreed and Trusts are so not fun to setup if you have a very disjointed
forest.  Having one forest makes it almost simple to do things.

Jon

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Up to you whether you want to do that or not. Lots of orgs do it either
> way.
>
> You can have corp.aspca.org for your internal root forest.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 10:44 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>  > Subject: Re: AD migration - how do I do this?
> >
> > Yup!  I'd concluded that months ago.  For all that, though, wouldn't it
> be
> > better if we went with something like "aspca.internal" (or .int, or
> > .local, etc)?  Just to keep the "private" domains separate from the
> public
> > "aspca.org"?
> > --------------------------------------
> > Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> > ASPCA Knowledge Management
> > 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> > 217-337-9761
> > http://www.aspca.org
> >
> >
> > "Jon Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/17/2008 07:37:44 AM:
> >
> > > Sounds like ASPCA.org needs to create an empty root domain and then
> > > add theirs to it then when you create 
> > > il.ASPCA.org<http://il.aspca.org/>it would go into
> > > the root domain as well.
> > >
> > > Jon
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Although I often use terms which could be abreviated "SBS", I believe
> > > you're referring to a specific product which we don't run.
> > >
> > > Last night, I realized our network would still end up being very ugly!
> > > Their AD domain is "nyc.aspca.org".  If we join as a child domain,
> we'd
> > be
> > > stuck with "il.nyc.aspca.org".  YUCK!
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> > > ASPCA Knowledge Management
> > > 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> > > 217-337-9761
> > > http://www.aspca.org
> > >
> >
> > > wjh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/16/2008 04:17:26 PM:
> > >
> > > > Just to clarify...you can add an SBS to a subnet, you just can't do a
> > > > trust.  I have added an SBS to the same subnet of another network at
> > two
> > >
> > > > clients without an repercussions.  I just couldn't do a trust, so the
> > > > migration was cumbersome.  In both we were splitting a group of
> > > > employees into a separate company.
> > > >
> > > > Michael B. Smith wrote:
> > > > > As long as they aren't SBS.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > > > > My blog: 
> > > > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael<http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael>
> > > > > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:28 PM
> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > Subject: RE: AD migration - how do I do this?
> > > > >
> > > > > But, can two separate AD domains exist in the same sub-net/zone?
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> > > > > ASPCA Knowledge Management
> > > > > 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> > > > > 217-337-9761
> > > > > http://www.aspca.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Don Guyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/16/2008
> 12:24:25
> > > PM:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> As far as DHCP goes, you will still be able dish out addresses to
> > the
> > > > >> other domain just fine.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Don Guyer
> > > > >> Systems Engineer
> > > > >> Information Services Department
> > > > >> Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident
> > > > >> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> > > > >> Devon, PA 19333
> > > > >> Ph: (610) 993-3299
> > > > >> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> > > > >> www.prufoxroach.com
> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:14 PM
> > > > >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > >> Subject: AD migration - how do I do this?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> OK, no question!  We must create a new domain which will be a
> child
> > > > >> domain
> > > > >> of our NY office.  We must then migrate all users and systems into
> > > this
> > > > >> new domain.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Our current domain is Windows 2003 R2 native.  DNS is fully
> > > > >> AD-integrated.
> > > > >>  I realize that we can't just tell our existing domains (our
> > current
> > > > >> plus
> > > > >> NY's current) to combine, and that renaming ours to resemble a
> > child
> > > > >> domain of the NY domain WILL NOT WORK.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So, I set up this brand new Win2003 server, run DC Promo, and set
> > it
> > > up
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> be a controller in a child domain of the NY domain.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Now, how the @#*& do I do DNS?  (I figure I must disable our
> > current
> > > > >> DHCP
> > > > >> scope.)  I presume there is no way I can keep the current IP
> > > addresses,
> > > > >> right (that is, 10.1.2.x)?  That would also affect our gateway,
> > > network
> > > > >> switch, firewall, and other network devices as well.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey, if we have to pay out the wazoo for consultants, we have to,
> > but
> > > > >> thanks in advance for any other suggestions, advice, etc which can
> > be
> > > > >> offered.  (No, a link to the CERN black hole web cam would not be
> > > > >> considered a good suggestion, although timely.)
> > > > >> --------------------------------------
> > > > >> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> > > > >> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> > > > >> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> > > > >> 217-337-9761
> > > > >> http://www.aspca.org
> > > > >>
> > > > >
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