And which part of "some orgs I work in now use router ACLs or FW rules to 
restrict RPC traffic between VLANs" is difficult to understand?

Current organisation I am working in places each LOB application into a 
separate VLAN (of which there are now hundreds) and each VLAN has FW rules that 
permit traffic only from designated infrastructure servers (e.g. DCs for that 
security zone) and from nominated admin workstations. Admin workstations exist 
in VLANs that are similarly restricted from other VLANs.

So, the idea that one VPNed machine can take down the entire enterprise is 
still a possibility, but much more remote. And there is pretty much no VPN 
access anyway - only a handful of users have the necessary access (RSA tokens + 
Citrix access + unfettered traffic)

Cheers
Ken

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 24 October 2008 10:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

All it takes is one VPN'ed computer that is infected to compromise the 
enterprise.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

I think having firewall enabled by default on Windows XP SP2+ and Windows Vista 
will help mitigate the issue in consumer land.

Some of the orgs I work in now use router ACLs or FW rules to block RPC traffic 
across subnets/VLANs. That will help mitigate the issue as well

Cheers
Ken

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 24 October 2008 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

Prior to me being here this district ignored Code Red. They got nailed bad and 
had to shut down for a week and go re-image 3000 computers. Feel free to quote 
me on that if you need to :)



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

I work at a hospital too, and this situation is a ohh well take NO for an 
answer, I have ran it all the way to the top here, and said its getting done, I 
don't care about the downtime its better to swallow the pill now then clean up 
the mess laters.

I also come in early in mornings ( Like 3:00am or earlier to patch my systems 
each month)

So I feel your pain.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
________________________________
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned

Must be nice. I work in a hospital so all of the clinical pc's are always on.  
The only thing we could do was to set up the reboot for 3:30 AM (same time as 
when I or my buddy have to do a real early shift to install patches and reboot 
servers.)

________________________________
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay 
tuned
And it does require a reboot after install. I hate when out of cycle patches 
require reboots. I prefer when my users don't know.


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Out of Cycle Critical Windows Patch to be released today, stay tuned
Importance: High


Heads up gang, more patching for this month, this one out of cycle and critical 
no additional information yet.

Z













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