I personally don't like the pearl. Something about a roller ball on a
handheld just doesn't work for me. I have an 8703 and it works beautifully.
Yes, I have a wheel, but it makes sense.

Handheld software can be downloaded from:
http://vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry/download.aspx?ct=corporate


On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hmm, looking like the arguments for not going BB aren't really valid
> arguments anymore.  Our carrier is Verizon, and they offer the Pearl, Curve,
> the 8703e and the 8830 World Edition.  Any recommendations as to model?
>
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>
> Looking at the specs on Verizon's website, I'm only seeing the version of
> the desktop software.  Is that the same as what will be on the phone?  If
> so, the 8830 has 4.2, and the Curve has 4.3.
>
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>
> Should I hold out to see if they can deliver 4.5?
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Employment Training Panel
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>
>
> *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question
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>
> Yea, it's no problem. Even Office 2007 attachments work for me.
>
> Granted I'm running the 4.5 BB OS which is out for some carriers and in
> beta for others. I've been running it forever and it rocks.
>
> Between that and the latest BES version, they have made up for a lot of
> those functions that were lacking from BB but already in WM.
>
>
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> 4.5 features.
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> • BlackBerry Maps with Points of Interest (H)
> • Improved media player with playlist support and automatic playlist
> generation (H)
> • Voice note recording (H)
> • Video recording on Curve models (H)
> • Streaming support for YouTube and Sling Player (H)
> • Microsoft Office document editing with DocumentsToGo (H)
> • Native format attachment downloading (S)
> • HTML e-mails (S)
> • Over-the-air device upgrades (S)
> • Free/busy calendar lookup (S)
> • Searching the server for old e-mail messages (S)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:14 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question
>
>
>
> Is there ever an issue with e-mail attachments?  For instance, someone
> sends you a word document.  Can you open that on your BB?  My understanding
> was that there was no native support for Office docs.  How about PDFs?
> Again, I'm not trying to flame here, just trying to get a better
> understanding of what the real truth is.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Employment Training Panel
>
>
>
> *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:01 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question
>
>
>
> This was something I posted on another list and I admit I may be off base
> on some of it.
>
>
>
> The device:
>
> Frequent OS updates. RIM makes OS updates available and free. Whereas with
> WM, you are pretty much stuck with the version that came on your phone. I'm
> not saying it's impossible to get updated WM versions, just that it's not a
> given like it is on BB.  While my WM5 users are still on WM5, my BB users
> have gone from 3.x to 4.x, and 4.5 coming soon. Each of those offers a slew
> of new or upgraded features. To me that has to be one of the best parts of
> the whole system. Sure some WM users get upgrades, but you are at the mercy
> of the provider and not all of them are so generous.
>
>
>
> Battery life rocks. I can go days and days and days without a recharge.
> Sure, some WM devices do that too, but not all.
>
>
>
> Since RIM not only builds the OS, but the phones, there are no issues with
> underpowered CPU's / hardware. Some WM devices are just damn slow. That's
> because the OS and device are not designed together.
>
>
>
> BES:
>
> I don't have to upgrade my whole Exchange environment to get new server
> side features.
>
> Just my BES server which takes about 30 minutes and is free as long as I
> have a valid support contract which isn't too expensive at all.
>
>
>
> Centrally managed. I can view all users, all user statistics, etc in one
> screen. Right now I'm looking at all my users and their PIN's. Plus their
> status, last contact date and time, sent / received messages and the times,
> filtered messages, pending one.
>
>
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> I can create filters for my users on the fly if need be.
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> I can set policies and deploy software. In the next version of BES I will
> be able to do OTA OS upgrades of devices.
>
>
>
> I can enable / disable PIM sync data from the server side at a fairly
> granular level if I wished.
>
>
>
> I can see what the users device is and all the specs on the device. Model,
> OS version, hardware, software, applications. For example from the BES
> server, I can see that I have Gmail, Google Maps, Jewel Rumble, and Live
> Search installed on my BB.
>
>
>
> Nobody can connect a device to my BES without getting an account setup by
> me. No rogue phones, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:51 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question
>
>
>
> Martin,
>
>
>
> Sounds like you prefer Blackberry to WM.  Can you give me some reasons for
> this?  Not asking for flames, but real, honest reasons.
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> Employment Training Panel
>
>
>
> *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:44 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question
>
>
>
> Your execs sound like smart guys.
>
> Here is a product comparison.
>
> http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare
>
>
>
> Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It
> won't support over 30 BB devices.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Blackberry question
>
>
>
> Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up
> against BES?  I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile
> devices we're using, and Blackberry devices.  If the execs decide to go with
> Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the
> Professional software, if it will meet our needs.  I'm looking at the
> Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world
> experiences, vs. the sales info on the site.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> AISA
>
> Employment Training Panel
>
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
>
> Sacramento, CA  95814
>
> (916) 327-5276
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