I use every single program you mention, with the exception of Peachtree, and I 
can tell you conclusively that they all work just fine with Vista.
The benefit does exist...and it is the fact that you have a machine now loaded 
correctly and working with all the required drivers and settings for your 
hardware. Once you start rebuilding with XP you no longer know that to be the 
case. And that doesn't even bring up the question of whether your XP install 
would be legally licensed as it sounds like you did not buy the downgrade 
rights when making the purchase.
Vista is not perfect, but then again either is XP.
TVK

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Going back to XP?

Thanks very much to everyone for all of the answers. It feels like I should be 
able to call Microsoft and downgrade as long as a I have XP media and as long 
as I check with Dell and be sure all of the hardware on the system has XP 
drivers available. Thanks again to all  :)

Stephan, as for going back to XP, I think the issues with Vista have been long 
and well documented in the press and on this list for quite a while.

For me personally, I run Vista Ultimate on my laptop at home and cannot stand 
it. I felt the same - hey, why not try something new and spiffy? But it's eye 
candy that is unstable and incompatible with certain "old" programs I use for 
work. IE7 crashes constantly on my  laptop and never on my XP workstation at 
work.

But more so than that, it's the fact that I am not your typical "corporate 
user" that runs a few apps like MS Office and nothing else. I run everything 
from PowerBuilder to CorelDRAW to Adobe Illustrator to Remote Admin to Crystal 
Reports to FolderSizes to the Websense management console to iTunes to 
TrueCrypt to Peachtree. How can I be sure all of those things will run on Vista 
reliably? Heck, even some games I run on weekends here may not run (now THAT 
would be a tragedy!)

My point is that there is no *benefit* to me having Vista when XP works 
perfectly for me, and there are many drawbacks, both in the unknowns and the 
knowns.

Evan


From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Going back to XP?

Out of curiosity why would you "obviously" want to go back to XP?

___________________________________
Stefan Jafs

From: Sean Rector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Going back to XP?

I've been buying my systems this year like this - you have to specify Vista 
Business with the XP Downgrade option.  If you don't, you can't downgrade.

Sean Rector, MCSE

From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Going back to XP?

Was this purchased through a business? Dell is still selling XP as a downgrade 
if you ask for it.

I believe you have to have Vista Business or higher to downgrade and it has to 
be valid XP software, meaning it can't be one you got with another computer.


Phil
From: Evan Brastow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Going back to XP?

Because I don't feel anyone on this list has anything better to do than to 
answer my silly questions... :)

Just took delivery of my first Dell in years (I've been using HP Workstations 
for about 6 years but wanted to give Dell a try again.)

It's one of their gaming systems, actually, but it will do well for my graphics 
work. 3GHz Core2 Extreme processor overclocked to 3.67GHz, 4GB of RAM, dual 
750GB hard drives, dual 1024MB ATI Radeon graphics cards, etc... etc...

Sounds nice, right?

Also comes with Windows Vista (there was, of course, no other option when 
ordering.)

Great, so I feel like I bought a new Cadillac and the nav system is a 
Lite-Brite with dysfunctional pegs.

So, what I'd like to do, obviously, is go back to XP. But I'm wondering if 
there is any legal way to do so? I know I can't transfer an XP license from my 
old system that had XP on it, and I don't think I can buy XP at stores anymore.

Does Microsoft still allow you to "downgrade" (as if going from a Lite Brite 
with dysfunctional pegs to a working Etch-A-Sketch is a downgrade) from Vista 
to XP if you call them?

Thanks,

Evan












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