I'm not sure what you are even talking about with point 2. You can install Vista to any directory that you choose. Not to mention that the Vista install is MUCH better than XP's has ever dreamed of being. Vista's install is Windows directory aware and will archive your old Windows directory (or whatever you called it) to Windows.old and then install to a new install directory resulting in a completely new OS install with no lost data (profiles,etc). That was a HUGE pain with XP (actually it still is :-P). TVK
From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Going back to XP? My reasons for wanting to go back to XP are these: 1) Bloated installations. Even though "disks are cheap", and that's a relative statement. I do not want every single file on the Vista DVDs copied to my system by default and then loaded into the OS when I tell Vista "install this feature". I know it sounds Linux minded, but why have those 'dead' files just sitting there doing nothing? Its just as easy to pull the DVD out , plop it and load what YOU want, when YOU want. 2) I HATE the imaged install process MS pushes on everyone with Vista. I, for one, NEVER install my clients to the default systemroot. I stopped doing this years ago because I got tired of keeping up with c:\windows, c:\winnt35, c:\winn351, c:\winn351, c:\winnt, and then back to c:\windows again. Whats the next step, and why do I have to be FORCED to use c:\windows AGAIN? I know 'real' virus writers and 'real' hackers if you will, know the right variables to use, but if you look at my own security logs on my servers and clients, the little script kiddies are still going after c:\windows, and when that's not there, they hit d:\windows , e:\windows c:\root, d:\root, etc. Allowing a system admin to alter the system root upon installation , in my opinion, is a small, but critical success in keeping small, and sometimes horrible attacks off your systems and out of your enterprise. 3) WHY is it I could run XP on a machine that ran Windows 2000 pro without issue, but a machine I purchased NEW for XP cannot run Vista? They made it so difficult to upgrade that companies like mine would HAVE to purchase a whole new hardware base for just this OS, when in the past, you would just buy the OS because your hardware was still good. I could make my hardware last longer, and that's a GOOD investment in the hardware, while bringing in new SOFTWARE that should still run perfectly on it. Its my same complaint with Exchange 2007 ONLY coming in 64 bit. I know why, I get it, but again, you're FORCING companies to invest in more hardware when they really did not NEED to do so. I am hoping that at least points 1 and 2 are overcome by Windows 7 because I am skipping over Windows ME, I mean errr Windows Vista and hoping for the beast , I mean Best in Windows 7. Cheers! From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Going back to XP? I think Vista works great (on Vista capable hardware of course). On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Eric Wittersheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: I have the same question. Vista is starting to grow on me at home. I still use XP Pro at work. But at home I run multiple Vista Utlimate and one Vista Home Premimum (as well as XP Pro and Media Center 2005) and the interface is starting to grow on me, especially Media Center. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Stefan Jafs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Out of curiosity why would you "obviously" want to go back to XP? ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: Sean Rector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Going back to XP? I've been buying my systems this year like this - you have to specify Vista Business with the XP Downgrade option. If you don't, you can't downgrade. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Going back to XP? Was this purchased through a business? Dell is still selling XP as a downgrade if you ask for it. I believe you have to have Vista Business or higher to downgrade and it has to be valid XP software, meaning it can't be one you got with another computer. Phil From: Evan Brastow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Going back to XP? Because I don't feel anyone on this list has anything better to do than to answer my silly questions... :) Just took delivery of my first Dell in years (I've been using HP Workstations for about 6 years but wanted to give Dell a try again.) It's one of their gaming systems, actually, but it will do well for my graphics work. 3GHz Core2 Extreme processor overclocked to 3.67GHz, 4GB of RAM, dual 750GB hard drives, dual 1024MB ATI Radeon graphics cards, etc... etc... Sounds nice, right? Also comes with Windows Vista (there was, of course, no other option when ordering.) Great, so I feel like I bought a new Cadillac and the nav system is a Lite-Brite with dysfunctional pegs. So, what I'd like to do, obviously, is go back to XP. But I'm wondering if there is any legal way to do so? I know I can't transfer an XP license from my old system that had XP on it, and I don't think I can buy XP at stores anymore. Does Microsoft still allow you to "downgrade" (as if going from a Lite Brite with dysfunctional pegs to a working Etch-A-Sketch is a downgrade) from Vista to XP if you call them? Thanks, Evan Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phone: (757) 213-4548 (direct line) {*} This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. 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