roflwaffes.

Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal
levels. Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less
for the welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad
thing - for the good of the country.  Not that you are, but to brand
him a socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly
IMO.  Our economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals.

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ME2



On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree or
> hunt me down..
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> 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy.   You don't bounce back from
> a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in the
> economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number..
>
> I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our
> problem.  The president is a part of the checks and balances when it comes
> to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and will push
> it with Congress;  making it harder or easier to pass bills..Good or BAD.
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> I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for  the simple fact
> that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no matter how
> you dress up the words.  He wants to increase the taxes for me as a business
> owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes and a bloated
> government.  Not to mention his provision for bring in illegals and giving
> them a driver license, benefits, social security(Which who will pay for
> that? You and I that's who).  The welfare system kicked into high gear…..I
> did not work my butt off 60 to 70 hours a week to have someone who wants to
> sit on their butt for a year and take 60% welfare checks because McDonalds
> doesn't pay as much… among other personal value decisions..
>
> If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your
> wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much.  The very
> essence of this country was built upon hardwork and ingenuity, those who
> don't want to work and work hard are not entitled to the benefits of wealth
> from those that do.  Also provide 100% healthcare..A noble goal, but the
> reality is that 100% healthcare is universal socialization and everyone
> paying a large piece to redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and the
> quality of care drops.  Look at France…They pay CSG and CDRS(Healthcare,
> Social Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket after
> those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to taxes…
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> Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where we are
> is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and the Banks being
> greedy and making bad business decisions) and then demanding that our
> government pay for the mistakes of business owners, people who buy homes and
> cars we had no business buying, and saying, "Save me, I am a stupid person
> who takes no responsibility or my actions, but I will vote for whoever is
> going to promise me everything."
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> Remember this.  "A Government large enough to give you everything you want,
> is a government large enough to take everything you have." -- Henry Ford
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> Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support.
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> From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
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> The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should be
> able to not be cutting budgets. IMO
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> I think no matter who the President is everything will be better afterwards,
> whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt and we
> can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the cost
> saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual.
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> Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's probably why
> everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the first time
> so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God)
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> On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a consultant,
> however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and all
> the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of big
> projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved.
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