And which principles would those be??? From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
So themz demokratz are the one's responsible for this trillion $$$ debt?! In the end I don't think it matters how jacked up this economy is as I think most people simply want certain "things to remain the same". Inserting the term "socialist" into Obama's campaign is kinda silly when you consider the principles upon which this country was built. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Oh, yeah - there'll be a LOT of change. Not necessarily the kind you want, though, realizing that Obama's party has been in control for the past 2 years already. We already have a taste. From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? People that make this type of argument seem to have no issues with the way things are going but complain about the way things are going. From the looks of it people on both ends of the income spectrum are pushing this concept. It doesn't mean it will work but as a small business owner making less than 200,000 I don't see any harm in trying it. I don't believe in trickle-down economics but in the end we have to try something. Irregardless of what plan is offered someone will find something wrong it. The morale is that there's no "perfect" plan as it's all a test and as far as I'm concerned everything from this point forward is a test. The government bailing out the companies, a good idea, but it was a test and we're still waiting to see what good will come from it. Obama's plan for change is a test. That other guys' plans are stagnent and represent the same failures that got us to this point. In the end I say vote for Nader or Obama as they both "supposedly" represent "Change". On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Ralph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: I would think lowing taxes to increase government revenue would only work if the money is funneled back into the US economy in a productive way. So if the money from tax cuts is distributed to big corporations who use it to invest in offshore projects, and the benefits of that investment stay mostly in that country, that doesn't really help us. If you cut taxes on the very upper tier of the income brackets, and they just put that money away to increase their personal capital or sock it away in other countries so as to avoid paying taxes on the income it generates, that doesn't help us either. Now if you cut taxes for lower and middle class Americans, and small businesses, they will spend that extra money. Then it is productive and increases demand, which produces jobs, and increases government revenue. Anyway that's how I see it. Trickle down economics doesn't work. If you believe the people who say it does, take a careful look at which end of the income spectrum they are on - maybe they have a reason for wanting you to believe it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:41 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? > > Except for the fact, that lowering taxes is how you increase revenue to > the government. Raising taxes lowers revenue. The problems that Bush has > caused are not due to tax cuts, but rather the fact that he grew the > federal government faster and bigger than most liberals would have (even > honest conservatives will tell you he stunk that one up). > TVK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:23 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? > > We are a broke nation. We need a tax increase - like it or not. Maybe > they can be lowered again if/when we have another surplus. But right > now there are nations (primarily China) who have the potential to > financially dismantle us. They promise not to, but they could. > > Talking actual "cuts" in taxes is ludicrous. > > -- > ME2 > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Wait was the tax increase at 250,000 , 200,000 or 150,000 ?? it keeps > > changing. > > > > > > > > What they ARENT mentioning is EVERYONES taxes will go up because they > aren't > > renewing the Bush Tax Cut in 2010. > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ Confidentiality Notice: ---------------------------------- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. 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