Thanks Jon, Thats a big help, just one more question, whats LOB server. My acronym processor has overheated :)
Graeme On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TS2 is basically how MS talks to small to middle size Partners and tells us > what is happening and how to sell their stuff. Very similar to a TechNet > event but more for Partners and more about sales. They were pushing the > entire WESS line and also telling us how to make money on their cloud > computing. They were also pushing the Response Point system as well. The > TS2 was the one put on my J.J. in Orlando yesterday I think he is doing the > one tomorrow in Tampa. He is good, knows enough to say I don't know instead > of trying to bluff it out he also knows some of the people to ask. As far > as actually doing this no I don't think it is at the point of MS saying this > is how you should do it. He was talking a scenario one of the audience > wanted to know about but it seemed that it was something they had considered > so he did have a response to it. There was an SBS MVP also in the audience > and she agreed it would work so I suspect they may be moving in that > direction but I don't work for them and may be reading more into it than > really is there. > > The full scenario was customer purchases SBS Premium but already has "new" > hardware. They would be moving from an SBS 2003 Premium to a 2008 Premium. > The hardware would support the 2008 and had plenty of RAM. Response was yes > use the downloadable 2008 Hyper-V or use the 2008 server license with > Hyper-V that comes with LOB server, put it on the existing hardware install > SBS 2008 in a virtual machine on that, then use the virtual license that > came with the physical license for the LOB to install the LOB on it. That > is very condensed but I hope you understand it. Basically when you purchase > a license for 2008 server you get to install 2008 on one physical machine > and one virtual machine. Premium now comes with the 3 server licenses, one > for SBS, one physical/virtual, and one virtual only. You get to play as you > want. They have also changed the way CAL's are dealt with which I thought > would help clients a lot. you only needed a Premium CAL if the client was > going to use the "Premium" portion of the server, so you can now mix SBS > standard and premium CAL's and it would recognize that. > > BTW for those of you that are on the MS Software Assurance program and have > SBS 2003 Premium you might want to look into the upgrade even if you don't > have the hardware to install it. From what we were told yesterday you might > get more than you think and it looked to me to be worth looking at. It also > appeared that they were still hoping to sell some more of the SBS 2003 > Premium with SA as we were told that that might be some still in the channel > but that sales of it would not end until the end of December. > > Jon > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Graeme Carstairs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Jon, >> Just to query whats a TS2 and is virtualising SBS 2008 and official MS >> line? >> >> >> Graeme >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I was at a TS2 today and they were talking about virtualizing this >>> beast to make recovery easier and faster. They have also put in a lot of >>> new changes so you might want to look at the entire thing again. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Eric E Eskam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Phillip Partipilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/13/2008 12:18:43 AM: >>>> >>>> > I mean for real, you dont see Linux vomiting over certain >>>> > requirements, it'll be perfectly happy to install on incredibly, >>>> > totally substandard hardware, where it will be doing nothing but swap >>>> >>>> > the entire time. To be so draconian is really disturbing. >>>> >>>> >>>> On the flip side, look at the market MS is targeting - non-technical >>>> users. >>>> >>>> Now I know it's a little absurd to expect a non-technical person to >>>> install SBS, but that is part of their target audience. If MS didn't cut >>>> off the requirements somewhere, they could go through the whole "vista >>>> capable" fiasco all over again, so they drew a line in the sand and said >>>> "here are the requirements". Either way they can't win. Now if they had a >>>> way for you to push F6 or something on install and basically acknowledge >>>> you >>>> knew what you were doing and to turn the sanity checks off, then that would >>>> make some folks happy... until some consultant did that in a production >>>> environment at a clients demand and then they were subject to complaints >>>> about SBS "sucking".... >>>> >>>> I dunno. Tough call - I don't blame them, though. The 64-bit >>>> requirements and the lack of an in place upgrade option aren't putting me >>>> in >>>> a hurry to upgrade any time soon. That and I'm keeping an eye on: >>>> >>>> http://www.bilal.ca/ >>>> >>>> Their appliance has some pretty compelling features - esp for hardware >>>> recovery, is cost competitive to SBS (esp. after the 2008 price hike) and >>>> with Symphony I could probably eliminate Office for further cost savings. >>>> >>>> Either way I'm not in a hurry to touch my SBS 2003 installs. >>>> >>>> Eric Eskam >>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>> The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any >>>> position of the U.S. Government >>>> "The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange >>>> protein; it rejects it." >>>> - P. B. 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