OK - let's get back to basics here. Unless you believe in the Jobs RDF, then Macs still obey basic laws of physics. They don't move 1s and 0s around any faster than other electronic devices. They use the same graphics cards, hard drives, memory, LCD displays, CPUs and chipsets and so on that are available in every other brand. The design might be good, but I don't see what they have over similarly priced competitors (even Dell's getting into decently looking hardware these days).
So, please explain, in some more detail, what exactly you find "optimised"? I have two Macs here at home (just for my own use), and plenty of others I come into contact with. I can't say I've seen anything spectacular about them (except that I need to install 100MB of updates each month). There's one thing to say "I prefer the way the OS works - it suits the way I think". It's another thing to say that an OS magically gets more Hz out of a CPU... Cheers Ken From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 19 December 2008 12:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - Anyone VM a Mac Leopard OS on a PC? I was a COMPLETE anti-Mac zealot up to June of this year. Then I was forced to work on them at my new job. Now I'm begging for one of my own. I admit, there still seems to be a lot of voodoo and black magic going on in the Macs, but they run amazingly well. I can run far more apps with better response on a Mac of "lesser" raw tech specs than I can on any PC. Granted, I can't speak about the mac performance vs. a *nix based computer as I don't have the experience. Also, my experience with Macs is their G5 and Power Books, not the Macbook, mini, nor iMac. Far more expensive, to be sure, but a much better all around experience for me. So yes, in my experience, the Macs are very optimized IMHO. They just seem much more dialed in out of the box. On Dec 17, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: Huh? I haven't noticed anything particularly optimised about the two Macs (one Macbook and one Mac Mini) I have at home, that I can't get in other brands... Cheers Ken From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2008 5:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - Anyone VM a Mac Leopard OS on a PC? Agreed. Apple's are FAR from generic white boxes. They are HIGHLY optimized, extremely efficient architectures. On Dec 17, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: It's not whitebox, it's branded, that brand is Apple. When I purched my MBPro, I spec'ed similary equipped notebooks from HP, Dell and Lenovo. Apple was more expensive than some, less than others, and I had the option of running a true UNIX as was mentioned earlier. Apple is a Tier 1 manufacturer just as HP, Dell and Lenovo are. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:11 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: "Joseph L. Casale" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote on 12/17/2008 11:13:17 AM: > >Yes, but Apple is all about total control - if you limit the OS to > only running hardware you produce, then you absolutely know that it > is *guaranteed* to work with any hardware your customer owns, and > > you can spend your software time and resources in other directions, > rather than finding ways to make it run on any hardware ever > invented (which is part of MS's problem). > > > >That's the theory, as I see it, anyway. > This was exactly my point in the old justification towards the > expense of the platform. Sorry; I haven't been following the whole thread ... > Now its whitebox intel run-of-the mill stuff? Does this _still_ apply? It does if they say so. :-) Eric Brouwer IT Manager www.forestpost.com<http://www.forestpost.com> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 248.855.4333 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
