Yes there are definitely shops out there of that size. And they are "silo'd" to use IBM terminology. I've been part of a Global Services outsourcing and experienced that. But keep in mind that there aren't that many companies out there with that scope. My last employer had 100,000 users globally and didn't have that sort of granularity.
Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: [email protected] Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 _____ From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's No, you don't that type of experience. But when you have 1000 IT personnel, they can't all be AD people, or even domain admins. I did some AD/GPO/WSUS troubleshooting for a company in the Global Fortune 15. For the one small segment of their network I worked on, they had over 6,000 servers and over 35,000 PCs. They had two dedicated IT staff who did nothing but maintain the huge Excel SS of all their DHCP scopes, reservations, server static IPs and server/scope options. They had people who did nothing but monitor NetBackup, people who changed tapes, people who handled Iron Mountain, etc. Extremely granular and an extreme PITA to do any work for. Need a VM for testing purposes? A minimum 3 month process as it went thru all the change control processes. Webster From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[email protected]] Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's Wow, that's really compartmentalized. I dunno if I'd want to work somewhere that limits me that much as far as what I'm working with. And yet, I'm sure if you apply for one of those positions, you are still required to have 10+ years experience, and expertise with Windows, Unix, mainframes, every desktop OS known to man, etc. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's I work for Avanade - we deal mostly with large enterprises (Global 500 type companies). In those types of orgs the AD team is usually separate from Virtualisation (which is predominantly VMWare), which is again separate from the hardware components (network, security, storage). Even as a directory, AD is usually limited to the Wintel area, and most large orgs have significant investment in *nix, midrange/mainframe systems as well. The "source of truth" is generally other systems like HR/payroll. As I said before - in smaller shops, there's usually significant overlap, so it's not really an issue. In larger shops (once there isn't a predominance of Windows), and AD isn't "king", it starts to become something that needs to be dealt with in some way. Cheers Ken ----------------------------------------- This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
