Yeah I am in the same boat that you are.  

Alex Carroll
Software Support
Crabtree Companies, Inc.
651-688-2727


-----Original Message-----
From: James Winzenz [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

BTW, as soon as I put that URL into my download manager, it immediately
started downloading.  YAY!  Now to just get a key . . .

Thanks,

James Winzenz
Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security
Pulte Homes Information Services


-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

I recall back in the day them providing a download manager for a ISO
file off technet, or software assurance licensing portal or something.
Not sure if it used bits or not... But it could resume, etc.

"logic designed to not impact "user experience""

I think what they need here is something that does not impact
"datacenter experience" and "burstable bandwidth bills experience"  :)







-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

BITS can do peer-to-peer and I know it can do the multiple-master thing;
but I can't claim to be anything close to an expert on it.

I do know that it has mucho logic designed to not impact "user
experience"
while file transfers are ongoing.

DFS R2 is a BITS server. It can be securely exposed (so say the white
papers), but I've never done it.

I'm not qualified to compare BITS to BT, but I think it's a "neato"
technology to have built-in to Windows.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog:
http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
> MSFT has its own technology for this "Background Intelligent Transfer 
> Service" - BITS.

  Oh!  I forgot about BITS.  And doesn't BITS in Vista SP1 have the
capability of doing peer-to-peer file sharing, just like BitTorrent
does?  Microsoft could release a stand-alone BITS client to let people
without Vista download big things like this Win 7 Beta.  They could even
offer a stand-alone BITS *server* for other companies to use.
That would be downright useful.

  (Just to tie in to a previous topic in this thread: But instead of
that, Vista gives us transparent window trim.)

> More than likely, the assumption is that most folks are not going to 
> want to wait for a couple of days while BITS transfers huge files in 
> the background.

  BitTorrent can generally deliver a 650 MB CD image in around ten
minutes on my nuttin' special cable Internet feed.  And unlike
conventional file transfer methods, the more people downloading a
torrent at once, the *faster* it goes.

  I dunno if BITS was intended for that kind of massive share swarm,
high-speed transfer though.  BitTorrent has caused a lot of cheap
routers and network drivers to fail under the load it can generate.
Trying to use BITS that way might violate the design assumption.

-- Ben

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