Right so there's no replication involved in group membership really. You are 
correct that global groups ONLY can have members from the domain they live in.

Technically speaking, global groups exist in the GC too, it's just the 
membership that isn't replicated across GCs. You can't even create universal 
groups in NT Mixed Mode if my memory serves me correctly.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

c - 312.731.3132

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Universal security group question

Actually in a multi INTRA domain model, global groups do not replicate 
membership information outside of their own domain only that group itself.  
Universal Groups DO contain membership data of groups across all GC's in a 
forest.

Assuming you have forest ...test.com and you have two child domains, 
sales1.test.com and sales2.test.com   If a USG exists in sales1 that USG will 
be replicated to all GC's in the forest.  If in native mode it will also 
replicate the group membership.

The only caveat is to make sure that all of the domains are in Native Mode 
otherwise the USG do not populate membership info only that the group itself 
exists.

Guido, I think you are referring to Trusts between Domains in different 
Forests..  Chris is dealing with child domains within the same forrest so this 
would be an Intra domain model not an Inter domain model by your terminology.

Of course its late and the baby has been crying for an hour so my neurons could 
be polarized...


From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Universal security group question

Huh?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Universal security group question

Universal is not security for inter-domain . You should use global instead

GuidoElia
HELPPC


________________________________
Da: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:[email protected]]
Inviato: venerdì 27 marzo 2009 20.58
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Universal security group question
I don't think the GC port has anything to do with it. I added the registry key 
mentioned in KB833883, and it displayed the non-local Universal memberships 
correctly.


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

________________________________
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Universal security group question

ADUC doesn't connect on the global catalog port. What you're seeing is expected 
behavior more or less.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Universal security group question

Domain and forest are both 2003 functional level:

Got a user in a child domain (child1.contoso.com). User needs access to 
resource in a parent domain (contoso.com). There is a universal security group 
setup for the resource in the parent domain. The user's account (from the child 
domain) has been added to it. When I look at the Group in AD I see the user, 
but when I look at the user's group membership in the child domain, it doesn't 
show her as belonging to that security group.

I have seen this, which describes the symptoms exactly:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833883

Except I am connecting to a GC, not just a DC.  I've used ReplMon, but so far I 
don't see any lag or issues with replication.

Anyone run into this before?


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003







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