This issue is not related to the virtualizing of the machine. It seems
to have started when that happened, but it also is now happening when
we reverted to the physical machine, which had not been wiped.

P2V is irrelevant in *this* case, anyway.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:21, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> You virtualized (P2v'd) your server. Sometimes it does not always work
> correctly or you can encounter problems. If the problem is with your VM you
> can do the following.
>
> 1. Delete problem VM. Rerun P2V if you have not already destroyed original
> server.
> 2. Check settings such as HAL to make sure it is correct. Also make sure
> people are not on server when performing P2V since open files can cause
> problems.
> 3. Set new VM with proper settings such as vCPU's, Memory, VMware Tools,
> etc.
>
> We have seen P2V's have problems. No harm in doing again. Just shut down
> original server after P2V.
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Brian Desmond [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:41:45 +0000
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Pool consumption (was: Re: Virtualized server issue...)
>
>
> Explain?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [email protected]
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Semon [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Pool consumption (was: Re: Virtualized server issue...)
>
> You virtualized or P2v'd your box. If not done correctly can create errors
> you are seeing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Pool consumption (was: Re: Virtualized server issue...)
>
> What does that have to do with this?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [email protected]
>
> c - 312.731.3132
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:56 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Pool consumption (was: Re: Virtualized server issue...)
>
> Start with 1 vCPU then check your CPU and memory on your VM. Having
> multiple cpu's can actually hurt performance of a VM unless it truely needs
> multiple CPU's. We start with 1 vCPU on all of our VM's. Also check your
> HAL if you are trying to run a uniprocessor HAL on multiprocessor machine
>
> Mike
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Kurt Buff [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:45:59 -0700
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Pool consumption (was: Re: Virtualized server issue...)
>
>
> Have added the reg entry, and am examining poolmon output.
>
> The server needed to be rebooted again today, so the reg entry should now be
> active. I note that in perfmon Pool Paged Allocs for this machine had
> slammed to the ceiling, although nothing else seemed to be
>
> Poolmon is proving problematic - I've examined the top two memory eaters,
> and am either getting too many or no hits.
>
> At 10:12 this morning, I took this reading, and a few minutes later had to
> reboot the box.
>
> Memory: 1047456K Avail:  220432K  PageFlts:    47   InRam Krnl: 2912K
> P:281220K
> Commit: 570560K Limit:3053000K Peak: 580612K            Pool N:35804K
> P:282140K
> System pool information
> Tag  Type     Allocs            Frees            Diff   Bytes       Per
> Alloc
>
> Se   Paged  13914251 (   0)   1770996 (   0) 12143255 243309424 (     0)
> 20
> MmSt Paged    755490 (   9)    753741 (   9)     1749 15544008 (     0)
> 8887
>
> Memory: 1047456K Avail:  229772K  PageFlts:    66   InRam Krnl: 2912K
> P:281000K
> Commit: 570396K Limit:3053000K Peak: 580612K            Pool N:35776K
> P:281920K
> System pool information
> Tag  Type     Allocs            Frees            Diff   Bytes       Per
> Alloc
>
> MmCm Nonp       1090 (   0)        15 (   0)     1075 7864864 (     0)
> 7316
> LSwi Nonp          1 (   0)         0 (   0)        1 2576384 (     0)
> 2576384
>
> As the winner and new champeen, Se is at least an order of magnitude larger
> than its closes competitor. However, the Se tag is in lots of files, so I
> prefixed it in the findstr command with 'h' per the KB article. That
> narrowed it considerably, but what's left pretty much looks to be MSFT
> files, and there are still 21 files.
>
> MsSt is simply not found anywhere, nor is MmCm,. though LSwi shows in
> srv.sys - I note that the Se tag is also found in the latter.
>
> Later today, perhaps after standard business hours, I'll reenable Active
> Protection for VIPRE on this machine, and copy a lot of files to it. If
> that's the issue, it should start spiking pretty quickly.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 15:29, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Kurt-
>>
>> Can you add the http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244139 CrashOnCtrlScroll
> registry value and reboot? This will allow you to generate a dump next time
> this happens (the hang, specifically) by pressing the /right/ Ctrl key and
> Scroll Lock twice.
>>
>> Also, Poolmon can help tremendously here too for logging.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian Desmond
>> [email protected]
>>
>> c - 312.731.3132
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:00 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Virtualized server issue...
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Over the weekend we virtualized our file/print server, and it seemed
>> to go well. Host is a Dell machine running ESX 3.5 update 2.
>>
>> The physical machine has an Intel HT processor and 1gbyte of RAM. I
>> gave the VM 2 procs and 2gbytes of RAM, just for good measure.
>>
>> Both machines were talking to our LeftHand SAN, on a separate physical
>> LAN, but today I had to reboot the VM, then a couple of hours later
>> shut it down and revert to the physical machine after it stopped
>> responding.
>>
>> The logs were indicating lack of server memory - specifically, these
>> were being emitted to my syslog server:
>>
>> 2009-03-30 14:05:12     User.Notice     home-01     Mar 30 14:05:12
>> home-01 MSWinEventLog   1   System  13892   Mon Mar 30 14:05:08 2009
>>     2020    Srv     Unknown User    N/A Error   HOME-01     None
>> 0000: 00 00 04 00 01 00 54 00   .......  0008: 00 00 00 00 e4 07 00 c0
>>  ........  0010: 00 00 00 00 9a 00 00 c0   ........  0018: 00 00 00
>> 00 00 00 00 00   ........  0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ........
>> 0028: ae 04 00 00 d0 02 70 00   .......      The server was unable to
>> allocate from the system paged pool because the pool was empty.
>>
>> Then this, as I tried to log in to shut it down:
>>
>> 2009-03-30 14:09:39     User.Notice     zet-home-01     Mar 30
>> 14:09:39 zet-home-01 MSWinEventLog   1   Application     13935   Mon
>> Mar 30 14:09:39 2009        1512    Userenv SYSTEM  User
>> Error   ZET-HOME-01     None            Windows cannot unload your
>> registry file. The memory used by the registry has not been freed.
>> This is often caused by services running as a user account, try
>> configuring the services to run in either the LocalService or
>> NetworkService account. If this problem persists, contact your
>> administrator.        DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to
>> complete the requested service.    30
>>
>>
>> and couldn't log in - I had to use psshutdown to make it go.
>>
>> I was starting to troubleshoot the paged pool issue, but didn't get
>> far enough into it before it required kick, and I reverted to the
>> physical box.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas what might have been the problem, or where I can
>> start to look for clues?
>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
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