A State University but not on the main campus. 15 months and I am. Jon
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:01 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: > What does your company do? Sounds like there’s enough waste that a > dedicated competitor could come in and undercut price and exceed on quality > quite easily. 15 dedicated workers will smoke 45 slackers every time. > > > > Anyhow, sounds like a work environment I would leave at the first > opportunity. A CEO that doesn’t have a strong work ethic is a CEO I don’t > want to work for…. > > *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER > NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION > (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2009 3:28 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Time to relax content filters? > > > > "However I am lucky to have the full backing of the CEO, he likes people to > come to work to work, not to do anything else.' > > Now that is a novel idea! I wish ours did. He is allowing staff to come > and go at will, not show up at all for days, and use "company" time to > browse the Internet without any controls. I have one user that to put it > lightly likes young ladies but as long as no one see's it on any of his > systems no comment is made. No it is not illegal what he is looking at but > there are limits to comments I have heard out of him. All but a few of the > staff enjoy those perks. Less than a third of the entire staff get quized > if we call in sick and as far as not showing they call us at home even on > vacations. Sour grapes maybe but try being told to reschedule vacations and > doctors appointments because you are needed at the office only to show up > and maybe 2 or 3 others are here working the rest are out. > > > > Jon > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:43 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We only have about 500 users. We are just about 98% thin client though, > which means users have no local storage. So their personal "dumping grounds" > cut across my file storage. It's mostly a case of changing people's > perceptions of things. They expect these WinCE thin clients running on > Citrix desktops to virtual servers to respond as fast as the PCs they had > before, and they don't. Same way they can't understand why I am bothered > about them filling up their "My Documents" with junk, they seem to think it > is all stored on their monitor :-) > > I have my sights set on their Windows Mobile devices and Blackberries next > (cue evil laugh). However I am lucky to have the full backing of the CEO, he > likes people to come to work to work, not to do anything else. > > I certainly could cope with a Minnesota winter - however the commute back > to the UK may alienate my girlfriend slightly :-) > > > > 2009/4/3 Sam Cayze <[email protected]> > > James, I hear ya. And glad to have the feedback. Security is a big > concern for my stated mindset on employee PC use. I still lock these guys > down to the 'T'. No admin rights, no USB drives during virus scares, no IM, > OpenDNS block any porn, etc... Trust me, I have still done my fair share in > alienating them. > > > > Curious, what size is your org? > > > > I haven't really felt all the struggles you mentioned... All photos are > stored locally on their PCs, I just exclude My Music/My Pictures when I back > up their machines. So it really takes up zero space on my servers. If they > fill up their 100gb drives with MP3s, I tell them 'tough beens' and they > have to trim down. Yes, my mailboxes are huge (2-11GB), but haven't found a > reason why I should be bothered by it (even after DR drills). I have > sifted through our email, and 99% of the bulk is work related [yes, they use > our email for personal use] The only thing that I am erked out about lately > is SMS usage. Yes, we also let our employees use their company provided > cells for personal use. The minutes don't matter one dime, but SMS is > started to take a toll. We used to get it free from Sprint, but not any > more :( > > > > -Sam > > > > PS: If you can bear Minnesota winters, you have job ;) [Yeah, it snowed > here yesterday - It's April]. I'm confident Rollouts will be alright > through these tough times. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] > > *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2009 3:45 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Time to relax content filters? > > > > You must have fantastic employees. Ours are far from that. When they did > have access to every website on earth and could play music on their PCs, > they didn't reciprocate with utter devotion. When we did block Facebook, I > had customer service advisors phoning up at 8.05 asking why they couldn't > get on it. When I did an audit of our file servers, I found 85% of our > storage space was cluttered with mp3s, wedding photos, photos of their > friends, joke programs, etc. I hate to think how much of our email storage > is also full of non-work-related crap. > > our productivity is up massively since we went with thin clients, web > filters, disk quotas and the like. We still allow quota time for Internet > access to shopping and entertainment sites, etc. The environment is much > more secure. A few weeks ago an unregulated internet cafe went in at one of > our remote sites. The machines are now full of porn, so I have been tasked > to secure the place and replace the PCs with thin clients. > > However, it is always different at different places - do you have any > vacancies? :-) > > 2009/4/3 Sam Cayze <[email protected]> > > >>>>Unless you like paying people to work on there Facebook page and talk > with there friends, etc etc rather doing the work they are supposed to be > doing and getting paid for. > > > > [With all due respect / not trying to start an argument here, I am just > passionate about this subject, and well, kinda enjoy it. The point is very > valid, and I can see it's place at many organizations. But not across the > boards...] > > > > Yeah, actually WE don't mind paying people to these things. Like I said > before, our employees will bend over backwards for our company, 24/7/365. > We have a very grey line between company time and personal time. The thing > is, we have a dedicated work force that is more than happy to compromise > their personal time after hours and help the company if needed. Whether > they are at home after hours, on vaca, etc. Therefore, I feel a need to > reciprocate the same treatment back to them during business hours. > > > > Treat your employees like humans, and they will give you amazing results. > Personal lives should NEVER go on hold. Alienate your employees with > robotic mandates (In this context: Facebook filters), and they will quit > giving you 110%. > > > > iTunes on all machines, make your personal appointments on company time, > 8am sharp does not exist... I could go on, and it's besides the point. > Yeah, the perks here are great, but the way our workforce is whole heartily > devoted to our company is priceless. These guys are great, and will do > anything for us. It's not through chance or luck that we have great > employees, it derives from the way we treat them. > > > > -Sam > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2009 4:13 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Time to relax content filters? > > > > Hold on, I'll answer you after I'm done updating my Twitter. > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Ziots, Edward <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think not, > > > > Facebook is personal stuff not to be done on company time. Unless you like > paying people to work on there facebook page and talk with there friends, > etc etc rather doing the work they are supposed to be doing and getting paid > for. > > > > Z > > > > Edward Ziots > > Network Engineer > > Lifespan Organization > > MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + > > [email protected] > > Phone:401-639-3505 > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:55 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Time to relax content filters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
