My apologies, Jon, you are right...the Exchange product doesn't come with SQL. I was thinking of the Client Management piece. It's early and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet...heh.
Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? No it does not come with SQL but you will need it. I found that out the hard way and the management piece will not work with Express it must have Analysis Services to run. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lambert <[email protected]> wrote: Wow...what a great responses! Thanks, everyone for the input. I'm going to be meeting with the tech's from other offices tomorrow and will suggest Forefront for Exchange and client machines as a possible solution. If I'm reading the literature correctly, FF for Exchange does do antispam so that's encouraging. And it comes with an installation of SQL that is dedicated to FF. Again, thanks a million! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett < [email protected]> wrote: Don't wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-fo r-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they're ditching. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 April 2009 10:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle < [email protected]> wrote: We use it, but I'm hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don't mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it's integrated with AD and WSUS-pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don't really know how to judge its efficacy. We've not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don't have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/> From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. 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