That's absolutely correct.

Sean Rector, MCSE


-----Original Message-----
From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISA Question

I think you are asking essentially the same question I asked on the ISA
list a bit ago, to which Jim Harrison responded (copied and pasted from
Jim):

<quote>
You're laboring under the misperception that "http = port 80"
"HTTP" doesn't have a port - it's an application protocol that can
traverse any port (mostly).
The commonly-accepted port for HTTP is 80, just like the
commonly-accepted port for SSL is 443, but there's nothing that says
they have to stay there.
It's a basic feature of any CERN proxy that the client can ask for any
destination port it wants.
IO:
(normal)
Client --> ISA: GET http://host.domain.tld/abs_path?querystring HTTP/1.x

(yours)
Client --> ISA: GET http://host.domain.tld:4000/abs_path?querystring
HTTP/1.x

Jim
</quote>

My understanding of what Jim said was that it doesn't matter what ports
you have defined for the HTTP protocol, if the client makes a proper
request for HTTP over a non-standard port, ISA will allow it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISA Question

Yes, my explicit blocks seem to work okay.

But the weird thing is, sometimes ISA seems to correctly block traffic
other than 21/80/443, because I've had to create special rules for a
couple of funky apps than run on other ports. It's crazy.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Morris [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISA Question

The only way I've ever been able to get the firewall rules to actually
mean something is to require authentication. Unless it was an explicit
deny to a set of URLs. That worked fine with All Users set in the Users
tab. For instance I used to manage a blacklist on the server that would
disallow access to a bunch of sites. I don't do that anymore, I use a
SaaS filter called ZScaler to help me do it, and I chain my proxy server
to theirs for access.

Good luck.
Jason


-----Original Message-----
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ISA Question

I'm not an ISA expert by a long shot, but I managed to get ISA 2006
working here and we've been running it for some time.

I just discovered, though, that something may not be right. We caught
some kids using a proxy server to bypass the State of Florida's content
filter. The content filter blocks proxy sites, but only if they run on
port 80. These kids were using sites on alternate ports.

However, this shouldn't be possible because our local ISA server
shouldn't be allowing traffic on those ports. I just ran a test while
running a live log query, and sure enough I was able to access
http://air-proxy.com:82/?p=submit. The log said that this traffic was
allowed under a rule I have called "Allow outbound Web and FTP traffic."

I double-checked that rule, though, and it's definitely configured to
only allow FTP, HTTP, and HTTPS traffic over ports 21, 80, and 443,
respectively.

What could I be missing here?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us




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