Hey hey!  Watch where you're putting that hand.....

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Group hug ;)
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> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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> What a way to start my Thursday…Dr. Shinder, you complete me.
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> Shook
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> *From:* Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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> Hey, I’ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J
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> I’m on the UAG path these days anyhow.
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> TMG is still interesting though.
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> I don’t even hate Cisco anymore.
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> Still love you too Andy ;)
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> Tom
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> *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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> Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P
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> Joe Heaton
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> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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> (throw back to NT list of three years ago)
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> Because ISA sucks…I still love you Dr. Tom… J
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> Shook
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> *From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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> What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA?
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> -Malcolm
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> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense?
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> ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment.
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> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Sherry,
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>     Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a
> standalone box and all users go out another way?
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>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense?
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> Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements.  Like I said,
> we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support
> and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode.
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> Paul, words of wisdom for implementing:  make sure you have clearly defined
> (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some
> headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually
> rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.).
> Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our
> experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we
> got help on that call with little waiting.  Have setup several webex
> sessions and have had really good results with them.)  I'm not saying that
> the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their
> minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was
> requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support.  (It's
> a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not
> really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.....sigh).
> Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a
> rebuild/clean install of the application.....
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> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John <[email protected]> wrote:
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>   Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work?  Because of the port
> mirroring?
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> We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense.
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> *DuBois Regional Medical Center
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>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense?
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> Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it
> in VMWare and it no workee.
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> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized?  Looking at
> finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and
> trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual
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> Joe Heaton
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