Erik,

I'm going to have to agree with Brian on this. Making a copy of someone's DIT 
isn't the same as a proper backup. I don't think Brian's questioning your 
professionalism here - but if I was a customer I'd be quite nervous about this 
to.

The type of clients that Brian works with don't need consultants to take 
offsite backups for them :-)

Cheers
Ken

________________________________
From: Erik Goldoff [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2009 6:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win2003 DC on Win2000 domain

You're entitled to your opinion ... but from my experience, providing and 
offsite backup at my expense ( zero charge if not needed ) is a very VALUABLE 
service to most of these small businesses.  And I *NEVER* do this without fully 
informing the client, so they always have right of refusal.  Most have no idea 
about proper business continuity planning, and don't think ahead on how to get 
the business runnining again after a network shutdown.

That said, I think your characterization of   'walking off with a copy' a bit 
harsh, it's not like I'm stealing a copy for my own benefit, selling to black 
hats, or putting them at extended risk.   I would hope, given YOUR background, 
that you already have fallback plans in place, and it would not be necessary 
for ME to cover your behind like I do for many of my clients that don't know 
any better.

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security



________________________________
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win2003 DC on Win2000 domain

IMO a “network security engineer” would know better than to take copies of 
sensitive customer data like that. Put it this way, if you were on my payroll 
and I found out you were walking off with a copy of my DIT you’d be shown the 
door straight away.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win2003 DC on Win2000 domain

Agree with best practices, but with personal experience in dealing with 
consultants, we make them sign a contract/NDA that prohibits them from using 
any information or disclosing it outside our organization.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Erik Goldoff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
With all due respect, if they cannot trust a network security engineer that 
helps to maintain and improve their security ( have remote access to firewall 
and TS ) then they may as well still run on paper.  Their internal security 
knowledge, as well as any BCP is practically non-existant.

But from a best practices perspective, you are right.

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security


________________________________
From: Brian Desmond 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:28 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win2003 DC on Win2000 domain


That is pretty scary from a risk management perspective that you’re walking off 
with a copy of the customer’s AD.



Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>



c - 312.731.3132



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