When they have them. Passwords, that is. I think it's great that you work in/with an organization with rigorous IT processes. Not all of us do. Not all of us have the luxury of consulting engagements where the business owner understands IT and demands rigorous processes. However, and I'll be blunt, you seem to be preaching to the choir. I'll stipulate that you're right, enterprises, no matter the size should care about all the facets of IT as it relates to their business. I would ask that you respect the fact that there are owners out there who don't care, because they're too busy running their business, and the consultant/tech is there to fix the problem. Could more be done? Sure, but it's an iterative process. Just like your organizations's processes didn't get where they are now overnight, so to is client education. Educational theory holds that you need to show someone how to do something at least three different times, in three different ways to get true understanding. And on top of that, all these things cost money, and with small business owners, cash flow is KING.
-Jonathan On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]>wrote: > Passwords are very much so sensitive data. > > Thanks, > Brian Desmond > [email protected] > > c - 312.731.3132 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:42 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Win2003 DC on Win2000 domain > > Another thing about many small shops (I consult to SMBs) is that there > often > isn't any "sensitive" data in AD. It's a list of user and computer > accounts, > with little if any personal info put in. A 10 person shop isn't going to > bother filling in all the attributes in AD. Sometimes you don't even get > last names. :-) > > I also work for large financials and yes, it would be significantly > different in such a case. > > I think it's important to put in perspective what type of data one might be > dealing with in this type of situation. > > *********************** > Charlie Kaiser > [email protected] > Kingman, AZ > *********************** > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:21 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Win2003 DC on Win2000 domain > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Ken > > Schaefer<[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm going to have to agree with Brian on this. Making a copy of > > > someone's DIT isn't the same as a proper backup. I don't > > think Brian's > > > questioning your professionalism here - but if I was a > > customer I'd be > > > quite nervous about this to. > > > > You guys have been working for "real" companies too long. > > > > For SOHOs, if you say "I'm making a virtual machine of an > > Active Directory Domain Controller on my laptop; that > > includes the DIT files. > > I'll keep it for a few days in case we have trouble" you're > > going to get nothing but blank stares. When you then > > rephrase it as "I'm keeping a copy of important server stuff > > on my laptop in case we have trouble", you'll get thanked. > > > > Remember, a lot of these sorts of places *have no backups at all*. > > I know that seems incomprehensible to people on this list, > > but for a lot of really small shops (< 5 people), their > > disaster recovery plan is chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation. > > > > -- Ben > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource > > hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
