A third of my users are doctors.  I wonder which group is harder to work with: 
engineers or doctors?

> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:51:09 -0700
> Subject: Re: New IE zero day exploit in the wild
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Truth. However, there are also political and training issues.
> 
> 1) We haven't, as a company (nor within IT) figured out how to make
> our standard apps work under under non-admin accounts. This will take
> time and resources to figure out, and then further time and resources
> to figure out how to "productionise" the application of these settings
> and apply them across the domain, including two offices overseas.
> 
> 2) A large portion of our users are engineers who have a rabid
> aversion to the idea that they can't be admins on their own boxes. I'm
> in the (multi-year!) process of simply trying to convince engineering
> managers that none of the staff need two NICs in their boxes - one for
> the production LAN and one for the test/dev LAN.
> 
> 3) The overseas offices are also politically resistant to this idea.
> 
> While I agree that the load would be lessened, and we'd have a much
> better managed and more secure environment, this is not a trivial
> effort, and at times I despair. But, I persist, and have it as a goal
> to work toward this fiscal year.
> 
> The first step is to get signoff by company management, in the form of
> an actual policy - something of which there are no good examples.
> There are practices and recommendations regarding IT, but very little
> in the way of a real IT policy that has been agreed to by management.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 07:52, Jonathan Link<[email protected]> wrote:
> > After taking local admin rights away from users my plate is less full.
> > YMMV.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, unfortunately, all our users are admins. It sucks, but I use it
> >> to my advantage when I can.
> >>
> >> The reason we've not done a GP is because we haven't had the luxury of
> >> studying to understand them. Our plates always seem to be full with
> >> other things.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 19:04, Ken Schaefer<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Are all your users admins? Otherwise, how is that logon script going to
> >> > update HKLM?
> >> >
> >> > Machine-based startup script would be better idea, no?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Ken
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: Kurt Buff [[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2009 2:41 AM
> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> > Subject: Re: New IE zero day exploit in the wild
> >> >
> >> > I'm just pushing out the .reg file in the login script:
> >> >
> >> >     regedit /s \\fileserver\public\patches\videokillbits.reg
> >> >
> >> > The file was easy to create, in a capable editor (not notepad or
> >> > wordpad) that allows metacharacter search and replace, such as '\n'
> >> > for CRLF and '\t' for tab. I used the ancient, no-longer-supported
> >> > PFE32. I really should switch to VIM, I suppose.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 08:40, Eric
> >> > Wittersheim<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> I'm pushing out the .reg via GP.  So far so good.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The “Microsoft fix-it” is an MSI that I am pushing via SMS and is
> >> >>> pushing
> >> >>> fine (so far just a few test cases have it, but no issues). Beats
> >> >>> trying to
> >> >>> push out a .REG or something…
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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