Or elevate a command prompt, then type "explorer" at the command line and
now you have an elevated Explorer.

 

Carl

 

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: UAC--argh...

 

Have you tried assigning permissions via an elevated command line or
powershell?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
<[email protected]> wrote:

So, I've been trying REALLY hard to just get used to UAC with WS08, but now
that we have some actual file servers coming online, using windows explorer
to assign permissions is driving me absolutely batty.

 

Example: While logged on with a domain admin account on a WS08 SP2 member
server, I create a folder on the root of the hard drive (let's call it
E:\Files).  Then, we remove inherited permissions and strip the list down to
administrators and system full, and sometimes add domain admins with full,
since that is the group here who can work with user files.  Then, we assign
the permissions for domain groups who need access.  Folder can be shared out
with Everyone Full, but the sharing isn't really part of the problem.


What I've listed above, which is fine on WS03, never seems to be enough
permission for UAC, and I'll get "access denied" errors when trying to apply
permissions.  If I add my account explicitly (the domain admin I'm logged on
as), it then works.  But if there is a subfolder (let's say
E:\Files\Butterflies) that I'm not added onto, then applying higher level
permissions will make it stop and bark about permissions for that subfolder.
There can be a lot of subfolders, and it stops on each one.

 

Leaving the "everyone" permissions or creator owner on there when setting up
the folder seems to help sometimes, but then you end up with more
permissions than we want on something, and with creator owner there seem to
be added permissions.  Explorer.exe can't be run in "compatability mode" so
I can't set it to run elevated, but I find that if I run it as administrator
I seem to still have problems-it's almost like each time you change the
focus in explorer it re-evaluates your credentials.

 

Do other people have this trouble, and if so, what are you doing to handle
this?  Here are some options I see:

1)     Assign explicit permissions for administrative accounts on all files
and folders-yikes!  Would this work with a domain group, as long as it's not
domain admins (or something else in administrators)?

2)     Log on with THE local administrator account when we need to work on
permissions.  (Yuk, getting prompted for domain credentials every time we
need to browse the domain to add a group.  Also bad having multiple admins
logging on the same account all the time).

3)     Suck it up and wait for R2, because they've made this "better"
somehow?

4)     When creating a folder, leave permissions at the "default".  Add
groups that need access, and restrict the share-level permissions to just
those groups (another yuk, especially since we are really getting away from
sharing out every folder).

5)     Something else?  I was reading up on UAC on technet
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691(WS.10).aspx), but I'm
not sure if I could gain or lose anything by doing something like disabling
admin approval mode or changing the elevation prompt for administrators.
I'm concerned that this might really negate the security benefit of having
UAC in the first place on a server.

6)     Turn off UAC-honestly, I really don't want to do this unless there is
no other option.

 

-Bonnie

 

 

 

 

 

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