And never, under any circumstances get rid of the folder %windir%\$hf_mig$!

Regards,

Rubens Almeida

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]> wrote:
> Careful with that.
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> There are dependencies there for future things (think removing/re-adding a
> windows component), that you may not realize.
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> -sc
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> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:29 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Question about a folder under C:\Windows
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> "It's best to not touch folders within the .\Windows directory to try to
> reclaim disk space."
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> You can safely delete all the update install folders for Windows Update and
> Service Packs if your machine is running stable and you doubt you will ever
> need to uninstall them.
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> Frees up a LOT of space.
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> Sam
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:17 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Question about a folder under C:\Windows
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> As hinted, the Install Clean-up Tool is essentially MSIZAP with a GUI.  It's
> best to use it by:
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> 1. Use the Conrol Panel Add/Remove programs to unistall applications, then
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> 2. Run the Installer Clean-Up tool, and select any apps you believe should
> have been removed.  (Add/Remove sometimes leaves pieces behihd, depending on
> how well written the app was.)
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> 3. Check your file system - some pieces get left behind in the .\Program
> Files directory.
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> Do NOT use the clean-up tool first in order to uninstall apps!  That will do
> a great job of making the Add/Remove control panel applet unusable for that
> app.
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> Back to the original "problem"...  It's best to not touch folders within the
> .\Windows directory to try to reclaim disk space.  (There is probably a
> .\Windows\temp folder, but I've never seen much in those folders.)  Use
> something like WinTree, WinDirStat, etc to locate big files or folders.
>  Some browser caches can get to be pretty big.  If a machine has multiple
> users, some of those profiles (some of which are local caches of a roaming
> user) can approach Gbs in size.  I've seen machines with several crash dump
> files in the root directory.  (Some crash dump files also end up in an
> administrators local settings profile instead of the rood.)
> --
> richard
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> Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote on 09/28/2009 01:05:59 PM:
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>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Joseph Heaton <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > The c:\windows\installer folder.  On the system I'm looking at it
>> is a hidden system folder.  Does anyone know the function of this
>> folder, and whether or not the contents can be cleared?
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>>   That folder is part of the -- wait for it -- Windows Installer.
>> (Also called "Microsoft Installer" or MSI.)  The folder gets used to
>> store a number of things, including database information about
>> installed packages, cached patches for (re)installation, program icons
>> (stored as .EXE files), temporary files during install, and other
>> mysterious stuff.  It typically uses opaque IDs rather than
>> human-readable names.  It's your classic Microsoft big-ball-of-mud.
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>>   You don't want to go "pruning" in there without specific direction.
>> If you remove a file related to a currently-installed package, then
>> future attempts at upgrading, repairing, or removing that package may
>> fail.  For example, patches are cached so they can be re-applied or
>> reversed during future operations, and database info tells MSI exactly
>> what to do during an uninstall.
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>>   However, it is also quite possible for stale files to accumulate in
>> there.  Unfortunately, since it's a rather opaque data store, it's
>> hard to know what's needed and what isn't.
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>>   The MSIZAP utility has a command, G, to "remove orphaned cached
>> Windows Installer data files".  Exactly how it determines what an
>> orphan is, I don't know, but it's supposedly safe as long as you don't
>> use the "!" modifier to force things.  I don't know if it's
>> comprehensive -- I don't know if "MSIZAP G" will find all possible
>> stale/orphan files.  I suspect not.
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>>   The other options in MSIZAP generally remove information from the
>> MSI store without actually touching package files on your system.  In
>> other words, indiscriminate use of MSIZAP will just remove the
>> *record* of an install, not the install itself.  You have been warned.
>>
>>   The MSIZAP tool comes with the "Windows Installer Cleanup Utility".
>> You can get it from MSKB 290301.
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
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