On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM, John Aldrich
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I believe that Ubuntu will NOT allow the admin user to log in by default ...

  Ubuntu does not assign the "root" account a password during install.
 That means "root" cannot login.  However, the first user (created
during install) is automatically granted sudo privileges to run any
command.  Thus, "sudo -i" will give you a root shell.  Kind of like
RUNAS on Windows, except it actually works right for almost
everything.  :)  And if you "sudo passwd root", you can assign the
root account a password and login.

> I believe Fedora will let the local admin log in all day long.

  Fedora doesn't stop you from logging in as "root".  Fedora does,
however, prompt you to create a regular user account during install,
and leads you down that path fairly strongly.  It's done that since
day one.

  The real difference here is not the security model (they're very
similar) but the history.  Unix has been multi-user since day one, and
pretty much everything expects it.  While there are admins who spend
too much time at the root prompt, it's almost always because they're
lazy, not because they have software that doesn't work unless they do
that.  While there are plenty of single-terminal workstations, they're
functionally identical to a multi-user system.

  In contrast, the Microsoft world started with a "wide open" and
"single user" mentality, and still suffers from that mindset today.
To their credit, Microsoft's has gotten a lot better, but it's still
often a case of "we expect a single user, but allow for more than
one".  And the third-party application landscape -- which is, after
all, the big reason for running Windows -- is a total crap-shoot.  Way
too much stuff doesn't run properly through RDP or RUNAS, or without
admin rights, or gets confused by multiple users.

  So there's nothing *technically* keeping Windows from behaving well,
but most Windows admins are still going to end up spending time
dealing with these issues.  It's depressing.

  Unix is completely different.  In Unix land, we have a completely
different set of depressing issues.  ;-)

-- Ben

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