Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little
more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do
all of the custom scripting. 

Original Message:
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From: Jonathan Link [email protected]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VMWare tools


vRanger uses VCB.  IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require
VCB.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is
> what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third
> party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you
> need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do
> this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually.
> The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution
installed
> on a backup proxy.
>
> Mike
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Bill Songstad [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: VMWare tools
>
>
>  I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need
> that is not covered in the free hypervisor.  So, as any industrious sole
> might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my
> needs. And Viola!  There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware
> are
> sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team.
>
> So what I am polling about here is this:  What are the essential tools for
> managing VMware virtual servers?
>
> What I need is pretty simple.  I just want to make backups of my servers
> that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at
the
> very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights.  I don't
> necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that
include
> it are more than my total server hardware budget.
>
> Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check
> out?  The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can
divine
> from their website.
>
> Any advice is appreciated,
>
> Bill
>
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