OpenDNS is a wonderful product (I use it myself), but they do not actually protect against malware links. They primarily use phishing feeds, and some number of malware links, but it's certainly not comprehensive. If you like, I can send you over some malware links to test against. Respectfully, I think the strategy outlined below is not a safe one. One zero day exploit on even a non-Windows application (PDF, Flash, etc.) could cause some serious damage to your systems, and even compromised data. AV products these days are not the panacea (I see test results daily on all the AV engines, and no matter what anyone tells you, all the AV companies are righting to keep up), but they are certainly a valid part of a defense-in-depth strategy. Alex
________________________________ From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... As a test I took a 100 user network with a handful of servers, put them on OpenDNS and removed Symantec 11 across the board. So far after about 6 months I have had 3 users actually get something. How, I have no idea, most likely through webmail which I have now also removed in OpenDNS and the bloat is gone (for now). At home I am running OpenDNS w/o any live A/V running for quite sometime, I do a scan every few weeks with malware bytes , since my wife uses the home pc during the days and tends to poke around and so far so good. Im sure its not the end all, but every A/V product I keep running into seems to be wasting more space/time than the viruses that its protecting. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... Braggart. Bet you don't have a Steampunked file server though! -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... I've got seven in my "production" environment. SCC, CCR, DAG, and standalone. ________________________________ From: Steven M. Caesare [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... Hmmph. I only have one Exchange server at home. I figured it was enough for the 4 of us. -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... With all due respect - this is something I always disable; even in Vipre. Email is the province of Exchange, not desktop A/V. Before you say that home users don't use Exchange, I'll admit that up front - and say that most of them use port 80/443 tunnelling for webmail, be it Yahoo! Mail, Excite!, Gmail, Hotmail, blah blah blah. So granted, I am probably the exception, rather than the rule; when it comes to having multiple Exchange servers at home. :-) I was on the beta for MSE - for a home product, I think it's the best thing I've seen. For a business product - I'm still on the Vipre bandwagon. :-) Other than a stupid documentation omission. (Which I've reported.) ________________________________ From: Stu Sjouwerman [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... Just bear in mind that MSE does -not- filter incoming email. Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 [email protected] ________________________________ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MSE is released... AVG is a bit hoggish. Avast is quite fine, though, even on Win7. I'll have to test out MSE and see... -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Rod Trent <[email protected]> wrote: Good point. I suspect this will be looked at as part of the Win7 release and rollout - and in a similar fashion. AVG free on Win7 is still a hog. MSE runs quiet and there doesn't "appear" to be the performance issues that plague the other free offerings. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... I agree. But given that reality, are companies really going to rush to push out this new release from Microsoft? I doubt it myself. Companies that are taking the free or nothing approach are already using AVG or some other free vendor, since upgrading (even to a free product) has inherent costs involved. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... That accurately defines the current economical landscape. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... Only for those organizations more worried about being cheap than being safe. I know it sounds harsh, but it's true. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... I'm sure we'll see it on business networks everywhere the next time AVG Free do an upgrade. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 29 September 2009 17:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MSE is released... Well...yeah. For business, System Center and MS Forefront is the solution. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MSE is released... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ The license seems to imply it's for home users only... (?) 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