I'm pretty sure that's what the older generation have been saying since old 
English became Middle English. More and more "vulgar" terms creeping into the 
language, and debasing our moral standards.

That said, there's a time and place that certain things are acceptable, and 
whilst that may change over time, a job interview for a white collar 
professional position isn't one of those.

Cheers
Ken

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 11:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It hurts when I stick a fork in my eye!

I agree with you that curse words can be ambiguous, at least as far as the 
meaning goes.

However, there is no question in my mind that curse words have absolutely no 
place in a professional environment whether it's IT or not.  The fact that they 
are becoming more and more "acceptable" is an unambiguous indication that the 
moral standards of our society are going to hell in a hand-basket.

What saddens me is that most people just don't care.

________________________________
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: It hurts when I stick a fork in my eye!

Curse words are ambiguous, that's the reason you can sprinkle them throughout 
conversation and writing.  However, with that ambiguity comes the cost of not 
conveying your true message.  While I can abide the use of foul language, I 
find it's usually indicative of laziness or possibly disrespect (whether for 
others or oneself).  That doesn't mean that I don't swear, sure I do.  Typical 
situations are when a fellow motorist cuts me off, I slip with some tool and 
cause myself a slight injury, or grab a hot pan without adequate protection.  
In all those situations though, the act of swearing is  to let off steam, and 
the intent, if others are present is to communicate my immediate 
discomfort/pain.
Case in point, there are commedians who use curse words sparingly and/or with 
precision, e.g. the late George Carlin (and yes, I know he swore a lot, but it 
was always for a reason!), and there are those who use them as a crutch such as 
the late Sam Kinnison.  While I found both to be quite funny, I tended to get 
bored during parts of Sam's routine, while George's 7 Dirty words routine is 
legendary.
For the younguns who don't know who these guys are, use the freaking wikipedia 
or maybe that youtube. :-)


On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Steve Kelsay 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree with the content, just the presentation that has tweaked me,
since a lot of our new applicants are using that sort of language in
interviews, it seems to be the standard English of the day, and I guess
I can accept it, even use it myself. It is the context that seem to be
getting to me.

Just ignore me. I'll get over it. (G)

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It hurts when I stick a fork in my eye!

I didn't actually notice that, but he did describe the hell we call IT
to
the tee.  Dead on accurate. I just about fell out of my chair.



Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: It hurts when I stick a fork in my eye!



Perhaps it is my ancient generation, but I am long since impressed by
low
level street language. YMMV.




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