I'd be putting the pressure on Vipre support.  Let them fix the problem.  It's 
not acceptable that the machine got hosed in the first place.  You are paying 
for protection yet it appears that you are relying on a free product 
(Malwarebytes) to help clean up the mess.

Of course some of the other "big" players are no better.  I'm still stuck with 
Symantec(can't wait for renewal time!) and had a laptop get hosed with 
"Personal Antivirus" whilst Symantec AV found no problem with the machine.


From: Len Hammond [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: infected box

OK, here is where I am. And I'll try to answer all posts up to now.

Data is copied to an external hard disk and external disk powered down and 
parked. As for machine configuration - the OS and the data are on two separate 
disks in the machine anyway so I can just remove the data drive and hold it 
until the rebuild is complete. So my original build took this possibility into 
account from way back when. Bottom line here is two complete copies of data 
files on two different pieces of hardware. I should be good from that 
perspective.

Second: I used MSconfig to not load some things on startup. Didn't seem to help 
as the fake Security Center still comes up with erroneous info.

Third. This is the second item that Vipre has let inside in a month. I never 
had this issue with AVG free over the last several years.  The first item that 
came in has hosed .NET stuff so that IE8 doesn't work well and it prevents 
Viper Enterprise - the server side - from functioning at all. Sunbelt support 
helped me get a new instance of Viper enterprise running on another box but was 
unable to get it to run here as we were unable to fix .NET at all. (that other 
server is now almost sold so I have to move things again.) Another client had a 
similar problem and I just gave him an SD card with AVG free on it and he ran 
that and took care of his problem. I may try that myself later.

Fourth: MalwareBytes. Downloading free version as I type. In the first 21 
seconds of scanning it found 3 infected items with the quick scan. 5 infected 
items in the first 50 seconds. By 2 minutes it had 11 infected objects. Several 
minutes in I get a message from Vipre - (yes, I probably should have shut down 
Vipre before starting MalwareBytes - oops) anyway Vipre calls it a know bad 
file and appears to not let MalwareBytes remove it. However following the file 
name & location, the file does not exist - so maybe something took it out or 
the malware renemed itself.

I'm gonna send this off as I guess that it will be another 20 or more minutes 
before it is done scanning & I need to get something to eat before running my 
daughter to soccer practice. I may let it run a deep scan over the 2+ hours I'm 
gone.

OK it just finished with 16 bad items. I'm gonna tell it to get rid of them. 
Says it successfully got rid of them. Now to reboot and find out.

More later and thanks for the good ideas.

That seems to have done it. No more popups.

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Erik Goldoff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
good advice already, but if all you really want is to save data off the drive 
before nuking to install win7, why not just remove the drive and install it as 
a slave on a known protected system ?  Then you can copy the data from the 
slave to a backup destination without any 'quirks' from the operating system on 
the slave in the running processes

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Len Hammond 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi people,

I have a client with an infected box. It seems to have the "SafeFighter" 
trojan. Vipre says that it blocked the installation of it but it has pop-ups 
wanting you to register the SafeFighter product to clean it out. It also puts 
up a false "Microsoft Security Center" window telling you that your firewall is 
ON and your virus protection is OFF or non-existent. When viewing the 'real' 
Security Center you find that Vipre is listed and running and the firewall is 
off as the settings dictate as the unit is behind a network firewall. And when 
you visit Vipre it is scanning with no items listed,n and it has two items in 
the blocked area but nothing in the Quarantine or any where else. These pop-ups 
come every few minutes. I would like to stop the pop-ups long enough to back up 
data and flatten the box and install Win7 in a couple of weeks when Win7 is 
released.

Does anyone have a manual method of removing this rascal? Everything I've found 
on the web is wanting you to buy their product to do it. I may have to call 
Sunbelt to get their method? But Vipre says that it blocked it but something is 
still running. Maybe I'll just reboot and see if it is only in memory and the 
pop-ups go away.

Anyone with thoughts for temp help. I know that a rebuild is the only sure way 
to cleanliness - just not today.

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>















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